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Why does no-one like Industrial music?
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Cult of the Bleeding Toe
offlineAlways ConfusedPosted 1 year ago # -
<3 twylightsync
Posted 1 year ago # -
Cult of the Bleeding Toe
offlineAlways Confusedhere here!
Posted 1 year ago # -
dodd
offlineTACOS!@ soillodge
I do not agree. Music theory is not necessary. It can even have a negative result if you are just born with innate talent and people try to tell you what you can and cannot do effectively.
You seem to have a twisted idea on what Music Theory is and what it can and cannot do for you.
Music Theory is not meant to replace talent (although it can for people who has none), it is meant to put in practice the ideas you have in your head.
People like Karlheinz Stockhausen knew Theory very damn well and he spent most of his career deconstructing the theory, defying the rules and definitions of it and exploring new worlds and he was very successful in doing so.
Music Theory is not that bad, you should try reading a book about it.
Posted 1 year ago # -
garric
offlineMemberBecause there is no Industrial music. It's only an attitude.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Bill Gates
offlineMemberGarric is right.
Back in `94 I was reading Industrial Nation & there was this t-shirt ad which had some ridiculous t-shirt with some generic industrial logo on it and a bunch of political bullshit like:
anti-vivisection
pro-choice
anti-war
pro-legalization
anti-religionI'm thinking, I don't give a fuck about your viewpoints, I want to listen to some FUCKING MUSIC
Posted 1 year ago # -
dodd
offlineTACOS!Industrial MUSIC for Industrial People.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Cyberium
offlineMemberOn the whole music theory debate:
I've taken several years of music theory and I can tell you first hand that it can both help and impede creativity. Of course having a solid understanding of how song structures are developed and what sounds good with what will help you with your song writing. But I sometimes find that my natural creativity and primal instinct on what I think sounds good get's squashed by my musical education. I think in certain music such as classical or orchestra based compositions, music theory is great and a huge benefit. But as far as Industrial music or pretty much anything else, it can almost be a negative. In my opinion music is something that is fueled by passion and a desire to create art... not by a set of standards and rules.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Pool Waiter
offlineMemberI hate to tell everyone they are wrong. But they are.
People buy what they hear. If bands in this scene were given a $100K video budget, prime time slots on the vid channels and local radio, guest appearances on stupid variety or late night shows, they would say a million cds guarenteed. It isn't that no one likes this, it just never gets enough exposure to grab the blind sheep that run around wanting to like what everyone else likes.
Face it, there hasn't been an original rap song in 20 years but all of those crappy artists sell VOLUMES. Why? slutty chicks in videos get viewers and viewers buy.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Pool Waiter
offlineMember.. I meant to say "sell" not "say"
oh and to some up my above post "out of sight, out of mind".
Posted 1 year ago # -
Rogue Process
offlineMemberIndustrial has videos with slutty chicks in it too though, and they're usually even more slutty IRL :P
Posted 1 year ago # -
Wrapped in Wire
offlineMemberFrom my experience, a lot of people just don't seem to like electronic music in general. They don't mind a little electronics in their pop and rock music, but they're not too fond of music made primarily with electronics. Not unless it's rap, of course. The ones that do like electronic music tend to like party/rave electronic music like dub, house, techno, trance, etc. without vocals.
When I've played industrial for people, they said that it sounded like repetitive noise with distorted yelling. The more club stuff (harsh/terror EBM) they said sounded like techno with distorted yelling. I've also heard people say that it sounded like music that would be played in horror movies.
A lot of people associate dark and heavy music with chugging guitars, slamming drums and deep yelling, not with electronics and synths. Most people tend to also like to listen to music that they can sing along to with catchy choruses, and lyrics that they can understand. When they hear EBM with lighter sounds and clearer vocals, they call it 80s music because to them it sounds like new wave and synth-pop from the 80s.
It seems that most people like music that's structured like pop and rock, which industrial isn't. It's a more experimental and noisy sounding music usually with overly distorted vocals that can't be understood. That sound just doesn't appeal to the masses. The masses tend to be more party type people, and listen to music that sounds groovy that they can dance and sing along to.
I was in Subway today, and a pop song was playing on the radio and two girls in front of me started dancing a little in place and singing along to it. I asked who the artist was, and they said The Pussycat Dolls. I can only imagine what their reaction would have been if something like Suicide Commando was playing.
Most people like safe radio friendly music, and aren't drawn to darker, harder, more aggressive stuff. The ones that are tend to be people who go against the grain in life in terms of trends and such, which is why industrial is underground. It's not music for the masses. It possibly could be if the masses were conditioned to listen to it with major exposure like rap had in the 90s and beyond, but who knows?
Posted 1 year ago # -
Ornox
offlineCowardly Dogwah wah wah!
no one likes my music!
boo hoo...
Posted 1 year ago # -
Wrapped in Wire
offlineMemberI like my music, which is all that matters to me.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Ornox
offlineCowardly Dogsorry, that was directed at Cult.
Posted 1 year ago # -
heretic909
offlineMemberagreed with Wrapped in Wire
Posted 1 year ago # -
Cult of the Bleeding Toe
offlineAlways Confused@ ornox- I don't care anymore thanks to twilightsyncs response.
Just makes me more elite ololololPosted 1 year ago # -
"Boyd Rice said 99% percent of people belong in the herd."
I was always wondering who the first person was to say that. Thank you for shedding the light. In Boyd we trust.
The 1% nation is here and it starts with industrial. Hail the new rivet dawn.
"Inside the car I was listening to the Propergol. turned up to 11. If a cop pulled me over and I didnt stop the disc, he'd have his hand on his gun and be scared of me. I wouldnt have it any other way."
Are you over 15?
Posted 1 year ago # -
r3mote
offlinegodsgirls all the wayINSIDE MY DOPE RIDE, I WAS LISTENING TO JACKSON BROWNE... TURNED UP TO 11!
Posted 1 year ago # -
ServitorSalley
offlineMemberA lot of you know the answers, they've all been voiced, so what's stopping you? Scared of a little rejection? You will be rejected by industrial peoples if you try something new. Don't let that stop you.
Servitor is not terribly popular with the industrial crowd right now. However, all of the Belly dance, burner-performers and circus gypsies love it. Given the choice, I'll take the audience full of belly dancers over the griping, judgmental, set-in-their-ways rivetheads any day. Until more people decide they want to REALLY hear something new, that's how it's gonna be, I've accepted that.
Seriously, don't be afraid to step outside of your lair to get some new ideas. If you only ever surround your self with the old timey elite stuffs, that's all you'll ever sound like.
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