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     @S80

     Well the whole goth aspect is kind of campy. I like this music because it reminds me of an electronic version of punk rock.

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     @ S80 - Honestly dude, I know I try and chew you out and rant at you a lot on here but with "Back in the haydays of industrial/ebm it had something to offer. It was loud, angry, energetic and had a message" you've hit the nail on the head.

     Utterly.

     It's exactly what I hope industrial could do a lot more of.

     Posted 1 year ago #
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     anti-authoritarian, subversive, genre defying, DIY experimental electronic act with occult and post apocalyptic undertones seeks major label deal for pop stardom, pigeonholing & mainstream exploitation.

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     Maybe FLA got a lot of play in Canada back then but not in the US. The only time I ever remember seeing FLA on MTV here was late on 120 Minutes a few times, and that was before Millenium came out.

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     http://www.aracnet.com/~jester/industrial/

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     I think it has been infiltrated and diluted by other genres and influences WAY too much. Dude, there are like 50 subgenres. You're bound to lose something there, when it's THAT specific. Also, in some ways it has gotten WAY overproduced and overprocessed. It's not pop. It's SUPPOSED to be gritty and nasty-sounding but still tight and put together right. Too many bands go either one extreme or the other: it's so noisy and "messy" and experimental-ish that you almost can't stand to listen to it or it's so polished and watered down that it's lame. With a few exceptions, there seems to be no middle ground.

     Finally, I agree 100% with what many others have said: that the scene is way too much about image now. It almost seems like no one will take a band seriously unless they "look" industrial now. With Scream Machine, we don't necessarily bother with that; we don't look like Ward & June cleaver, of course but we definitely look more "punk" than "industrial." But I'm not going to alter what I look like and what I'm comfortable with to sell more albums or to get more fans. That sucks and it's lame. And I agree with what others have said, that the obsession with image is killing the scene.

     @Eric Christian: And that is another excellent point. MANY industrial/electronic bands are "studio release only" or their live shows are VERY disappointing. That could also have a lot to do with it. Just as many people are turned ON to a band by a great live show, many can be turned OFF by a shitty one.

     http://www.scream-machine.net/

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     "Too many bands go either one extreme or the other: it's so noisy and "messy" and experimental-ish that you almost can't stand to listen to it or it's so polished and watered down that it's lame. With a few exceptions, there seems to be no middle ground."

     I often find myself agreeing with this.

     Posted 1 year ago #
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     no

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     SinDelleMorte
     

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     @Brapley: Yeah, it's unfortunate. As I said, the same thing is happening/has happened to metal.

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