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What do you miss from old industrial/ebm?
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Posted 2 years ago #
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Sewn
offlineMemberI got into this music at the beginning of this decade and I am mainly attracted to the newer sound than the old. Now being a music fanatic that I am and a lover of music history I definetly checked out alot of the old stuff. I just don't see the variation in bands most of you are talking about. Most of the bands use the same drum sounds and synth sounds over and over again some examples are the dx7 bass sound and the sr17 drum machine with, as a previous poster said, to much reverb. There are maybe only some bands that stand out but the same goes for nowadays. This is every style of music.
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it´s maybe more the difference between bands- There is a very wide range between the bands of 80´s and 90´s. because it was not so much a network influenced from internet. People in Canada made something very different to the UK and to Belgium and Italy or Germany.
Check out Pankow, Neon Judgement, A Split Second, AAAK, Numb, Swamp Terrorist, Fluid Mask, Placebo Effect, Genital A Tec, Non Aggression Pact, Die Warzau, DRP, 2nd Communication
just to name a few I liked in this timePosted 2 years ago # -
hm...some more:
some more crime (code Moral is my fav.), insekt (Stress is my fav. album), schnitt8, psychopomps, Cat Rapes Dog-esp. Maximum Overdrive is a great album i think, Notstandskomitee, Clock DVA - Buried Dreams is an absolute timeless evergreeenPosted 2 years ago # -
Ah Swamp Terrorists.....now that was a fucking band! One of the best.
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heretic909
offlineMemberDidn't really enjoy Cat Rapes Dog last year at WGT
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The Black Oil
offlineMemberTrolls causing drama on rmi. Flame wars about coldwave guitar industrial vs. all electronic bands. People saying the scene is dead and wishing music would be more like it was back in the 80s.
Good to know we've moved beyond such things nowadays.
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c-scan
offlineMemberDementia Simplex. What happened to them anyhow?
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Jairus Khan
offlineMemberGod I love Swamp Terrorists. So fucking good. Did incredible things not just in industrial rock, but straight-up dancefloor techno too.
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shapeshifter
offlineMember"Dementia Simplex. What happened to them anyhow?"
Funny you should mention them as I've just bought 'Prediction' (bit of a blind buy but it was dirt cheap). It's way better than I expected, in fact it would probably in my top 10 debut album list. The Skinny Puppy influence is pretty obvious, but they still have a unique sound. So yeah, whatever happened to them?
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Sumez
offlineHuge memberDidn't really enjoy Cat Rapes Dog last year at WGT
It's a completely different band nowadays.
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@ heretic909: compare to "Maximum Overdrive", "Gods, Guns and Gasoline" and "Banzai Beats" the later releases are sometimes a bit ...strange not in the best meaning.
But the maximum overdrive with "Water", "Shizo","Motorhead" and "What do you think" is still great...esp. when I think about the time when it´s made.
and for swamp terrorists: the 139 min "Killer" maxi is epic!Posted 2 years ago # -
silikonanswer
offlineMemberI miss colder sounds, more electronically sounding releases. thankfully EAR and other labels are bringing this kind of hard-cold-electro sound again.
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@Shapeshifter: as far as i know Dementia Simplex isn't anymore. but check their 2nd album "Yeah, i Killed My Mama" out! awesome and overlooked album and better than "Prediction" which is a good cd too...
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shapeshifter
offlineMemberThat's a shame, although not very surprising as they haven't released anything for over 10 years. I'll try to get their second album then, if 'Testicle Crack' is an indicator it should be pretty cool as well.
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I think the fact that there was struggle defined older Industrial.
Artists were fighting against every element, basically.
1- They had little-to-gear. The gear that they had was not very advanced (in our terms) and was largely not meant to be used for what it ended being used for, so the element of experimentation and "happy accidents" was a very real factor, as was really needing to know what sound you were going for, very far in advance, as you needed to figure out how you were going to make a synth do things that it was not designed to do. I am a firm believer that less-is-more and forced people to actually be creative. These guys did not have 1000 VSTs at their disposal. Hell, they were lucky if there 1 or 2 synths even had MIDI, heh.
2- Bands still tried to actually write music and songs. Everything wasn't based on having a club hit and getting your dick wet from some heavy-set cybergoth chick. Oh, yeah... Cybergoth and futurepop didn't exist yet. That was a plus also, heh.
It was hard to be a "freak". There was a time where it wasn't acceptable to dress in all black and have piercings, different world views, etc. Hot Topic didn't exist. Guidos were into being guys and didn't wear their girlfriend's lip gloss and hair product. They were into sports and were very nonplussed when a goth or any alternative person would challenge their preconceived notions of societal norms or sexuality. This usually spawned violence.
Everything is really easy now-a-days. Don't get me wrong, I am not all about suffering for my art, but having actual problems and barriers spawns revolt and creativity. There it is.
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I miss the amazing feeling of listening to something completely new and way out there... Around 1980 or so - (yes, I'm old) I was trading cassette tapes with other fanatical outsiders. CDs hadn't caught on yet.. Anyway, it was fresh.
Cool music: TG, SPK, Front 242, Severed Heads, Foetus, Skinny Puppy.
Cool labels: Nettwerk Records + RRR, Wax Trax Records was just getting started. Later all of the early groups on KK Records... It was a brand NEW scene with lots of positive energy!Don't get me wrong - I do enjoy a lot the new stuff, and strong EBM revival groups, but the timeless classics are what I always reach for first.
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emuziek
I do enjoy .... strong EBM revival groups, but the timeless classics are what I always reach for first.
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PS; I'm an old school fanatic & I'm PROUD to say it!
Posted 2 years ago # -
amiles
offlineMemberDementia Simplex - I have both their CD's somewhere! "Yeah, i Killed My Mama" had a very 70's glam rock feel at times if I can remember right.
To be honest I find a lot of new stuff has too much melody - more messed up noise, samples, effected vocals please and less boom boom bash dance floor trash.
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amiles
offlineMemberElectro Aggression Records-EAR - I've order new KIFOTH. Looking forward to this as I believe they make music they like like to make. Just wish they would play live outside of eastern Europe at some point.
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