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   apertureburn
   

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   ok so I'm slow and only just heard about this style of music. from the wikipedia article:

   "It currently features a fusion of techniques rooted in Swishahouse hip-hop – sluggish tempo with skipping, stop-timed beats[5] – coupled with elements from genres such as noise, drone, and shoegaze.[6]"

   sounds great on virtual paper! so I check out some bands and find some stuff I like ok, some of the lo-fi for lo-fi's sake gets a bit bothersome but still finding some gems. but here is the kicker: how the hell can you make music under a genre name like WITCH HOUSE!!??!?!

   I know it's just another genre name that shouldn't mean anything, and that it started as a joke. Normally genre names don't bother me much as they are used as a descriptive term but something about this one in particular just gets under my skin. And I'll be damned if I want to make music in a similar vein and describe it to someone as witch house.

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   apertureburn
   

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   sorry, just realized I posted this in the tech forum.

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   soillodge
   

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   Welcome to 2010 buddy. :D It is really not a big deal. Read that other thread on the main forum. Some people just don't get it. Some people are on the same wave length. The only resaon people call it witch-house is because we have been brainwashed to cling to genre names. It has to be named something. Pictureplane coined the term and immediatly said his music did not fit the desciption. None of the original artists will admit to ever calling thier music wicth-house. A lot of them think they are doing industrial. But when industrial has turned into evil trance music. What can you do? So they make up all kinds of names. "Rapegaze" got alot of flak..lol Coined by the two girls in Creep as a sort of tongue-in-cheek joke. "Drag", to me is the most appropriate but too many people associate that with men dressing like women. So, like if you check on the witch house communities on SoundCloud, everybody calls it something different. Okkult, Ear Sneer, Screw Pop, Chill Wave. Whatever.

   I have this saying with my close friends when we talk about this stuff. "Witch-house don't give a shit". We took it from that video of that wild honey badger. The honey badger killed everything, fought everything, ate everything. It did not care about it's environment, it just went directly into it like a crazy bastard. Witch-house is like this. As a movement, they don't don't care. it is not organized, it is not focused, it is ideas roughly scratched on paper and recorded on computers. Very few of the artists have actual albums. Very few of the artists have actual identities.lol I find it really intriguing that so much of this was created because hip-hop was our mainstream for so long. they grabbed that pitched sample element, they took the gold teeth and fancy cars thing and twisted it to some odd wraith of experimental goth and drugged out southern hip hop DJing.

   It is a complete mistake of genius..lol

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   apertureburn
   

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   ∆AIMON is really growing on me, makes me a bit nostalgic for my gothic teenager days :) though it still sounds at least somewhat modern. The way you describe it's history, Michael, calms me down a bit. I like the loose, unordered feel of a lot of it and having that type of feel in presentation is really appealing to me personally right now.

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   apertureburn
   

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   lol @ honeybadger

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   soillodge
   

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   See? You do get it. See how it just clicks into place like it was meant to be there. Crazy stuff.

   I love ∆AIMON too. Some of those peeps on SoundCloud that are just starting out have so much potential it is just insane. I love the Sleepless Nights band with all those symbols. Creep is great too. They have some stuff that was just released as DJ sets and mix-tape formats that makes me nostalgic for the LPD Traumstadt tapes.

   `michael

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   distortedmemory
   

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   i only use the term when trying to talk about it to someone else, because chances are if they know the music they know that stupid name.

   but as far as im concerned it is just goth music. and i mean that in a good way.

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   Some of that ∆AIMON reminds me of Ritalin but with less annoying vocals. Other tracks are kinda like an idea I was working on for a kinda Trip Hop with Teeth but couldn't find singers interested in working on it. Interesting shit. I hadn't really paid much attention to this style but I have to say it is pretty neat. Man I thought I made some long tracks... ;-)

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   I'M NOT GAY!!

   The genre is a trip. I'm even starting to see mainstream bands and artists use the esoteric unicode stuff. NY Times, NME, etc has been abuzz about it, with of course pitchfork, stereogum, etc. I personally cannot stand the term 'witch house' as a lot the stuff is not related to house or all esoteric in theme.

   I started this thread with posts to a lot of the emerging artists and videos:
   http://www.side-line.com/side-line-forum/topic/the-strange-world-of-havent-figured-out-a-genre-name-for-this

   But what is considered "witch house" is so all over the place.

   Imagine Muslimgauze, martial industrial, ethnic/new wage, neo folk, pagan, late 80's Valor Christian Death, Burial, Crystal Castles, NON, Dead Can Dance, and Massive Attack all mashed together and played through a victrola. It's so all over the place.

   Balam Acab to me reminds me ethnic trip hop. Salem reminds me of early 80's no wave meets shoegaze. oOoOoo reminds me of slave hymnals meets death in june.

   This is one of my favorite of these sort of tracks:

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   as well as these two:

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   Heck even mainstream rap acts are using the masked/spooky droning/bizarre theme with unicodes

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