£400 is fucking steep for a bitcrusher effect, but I must admit this little device looks cool as hell! I could never justify the money, but that doesn't stop me wanting one :)
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OTO Biscuit hardware bitcrusher
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Rogue Process
offlineMemberPosted 1 year ago # -
dodd
offlineTACOS!I have something similar
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450euros for that thingy is extortion. it is sexy, and capable, and that is fine, but that is 3/4 of a sherman filterbank! i bought a second hand virus for that money, and compare the dsp capabilities of the two things! one thing is to strive towards 8-bit, that is yesterday news, but if it is kept under reasonable budget of pebbles and pocket lint for gameboys, or mssiah i approve it. but to that amount on something that sounds like mario through a fuzz is pointless to me.
Posted 1 year ago # -
well its more than a bit crusher... but yeah when you bring the sherman into the equation all bets are off.. just get a filterbank!
i need more space. when i move i'll start another rack and the filterbank will be mine.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Rogue Process
offlineMemberYeah, that Robot pedal is pretty kickass sounding. Why the hell is it that it seems to be the hardware manufacturers that are doing bitcrushing right? Surely it's the sort of thing that would make almost no difference whether it's performed in hardware or software seeing as it's a purely digital process...
Hmm, maybe Bryan had a bit of a point about the importance of good DACs than most of us gave him credit for...Posted 1 year ago # -
soillodge
offlineTech ModeratorYou may "hear", that is it similar to a Filterbank, but look at the actual product website and this Biscuit is a whole nother beast. A bitcrusher/waveshaper with delay, step filtering, and pitch shifting is amazing. It also hold presets. I think the price is comparable to it's features.
Awesome find Rogue. I want one!
`michael
Posted 1 year ago # -
@rogue bitcrushing is a process that is performed by using low-bit converters and lower than necessary sampling freq, computer uses a simulation of it, but no one did it properly yet.
@michael i know they are different, but would own filterbank much rather, as i find it more versatile than otto. on the other hand, bit-crushing in otto heavily reminded me of electribe's own bit crusher effect: under-compressed and a bit weakPosted 1 year ago # -
Rogue Process
offlineMember@ soil - Yeah, now you mention it, I forgot about the fact it has a delay and analogue stepfilter, too. Still not sure if I could really justify that, although looking at my current effects software, it could quite happily replace a good 60% of the effects I use :)
Posted 1 year ago # -
wormsoftheearth
offlineMemberok, dumbest question ever: wtf is a bitcrusher actually used for? every time I have ever put a bitcrusher on something it just makes it sound godawful. Watching that video and hearing that drumbeat run through it...firstly it sounds fucking terrible, like you took a cool beat and now it sounds like that beat recorded with a 40 cent microphone underwater in a sewer...and secondly I can't think of any instance where i would want to use that terrible sound in a song. I guess people say it helps for distortion, but it just sounds so weak and cheap. So...what is the intended use for this sort of thing?
Posted 1 year ago # -
Rogue Process
offlineMember@ Wormsoftheearth - Guess it's all a matter of taste. I for one fucking love that sort of sound. It's just those extreme harmonics produced by aliasing that make it so appealing.
Posted 1 year ago # -
dodd
offlineTACOS!It sounds cool on Noise related stuff.
Posted 1 year ago # -
@worms - it can sound like a cheap broken mic... or it can sound like awesome. i sometimes use it in place of a limiter to punch up beats, or to add extra overtones on synths, vocals etc.
also - there is another cheap-ass alternative to the above boxes: the alesis bitrman. I got one for about 50bux after they were discontinued. Not as versatile as the sherman or biscuit but fun and destructive as hell.
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Eric Christian
offlineMember@worms ok, dumbest question ever: wtf is a bitcrusher actually used for? every time I have ever put a bitcrusher on something it just makes it sound godawful. Watching that video and hearing that drumbeat run through it...firstly it sounds fucking terrible, like you took a cool beat and now it sounds like that beat recorded with a 40 cent microphone underwater in a sewer...and secondly I can't think of any instance where i would want to use that terrible sound in a song. I guess people say it helps for distortion, but it just sounds so weak and cheap. So...what is the intended use for this sort of thing?
I'm guessing you don't listen to Winterkalte or Xotox much do you? [heh heh] I dig the shit out of this biscuit machine, I'd buy it if I knew where to get it here in the states. I can see me running this after my two KP3's. But I gotta say, you can do something really similar with a Boss SYB-3 or SYB-5 on the cheap.
Posted 1 year ago # -
wormsoftheearth
offlineMemberi listen to a decent amount of power noise (not to mention i make it), but this bitcrushed distortion sounds cheap and terrible, like a nintendo game recorded through a cheap mic. I'll take the analog distortion on the se70 over bitcrushing any day. Hell, i'd take Trash
Posted 1 year ago # -
soillodge
offlineTech ModeratorThe Bitrman is GOD. That and a simple delay box and you can turn any synth into a wall of fucking noise.
`michael
Posted 1 year ago # -
i think sample rate reducers(bitcrushers) aren't understood by most.
distortion and overdrive add harmonics differently.
hooked up to an osciloscope you'd notice a huge difference in the wav shape if you ran the same wav through a bitcrusher or traditional overdrive
in summation. bitcrushing doesn't equal overdriving or traditional distortion. its a different technqiue that can yield different results... and like all things synth different techniques can get you to similar places.
Posted 1 year ago # -
soillodge
offlineTech Moderator"ok, dumbest question ever: wtf is a bitcrusher actually used for?"
Have you heard my track Brain Death? Throughout the track I use bitcrushers to fade in and out the drums. Also in Field Mechanik I fade in the lead with a bitcrusher. Layered bitcrushing can add a broken edge to sounds that would appear too glassy or smooth. I also use it a lot on pads, very lite, the aliasing has FM style effects on the harmonics and it can make a dramatic pad sound very MPD.
http://soillodge.ning.com/Not a plug, just proving a point on the versatility of the effect. If you do not like it, that is one thing. But it IS very useful in certain conditions and when experimenting.
`michael
Posted 1 year ago # -
Eric Christian
offlineMemberWatched all the videos on this machine. Seriously wouldn't mind getting one. Is it even available now and if so I wonder where you would get it in the states?
Posted 1 year ago # -
soillodge
offlineTech ModeratorPosted 1 year ago #
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