sHe is still listed as a member and still playing live with the other 3 as far as I know.
`michael
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OMG WHAT HAPPENED TO INDUSTRIAL?
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soillodge
offlineTech ModeratorPosted 1 year ago # -
Sanfox69
offlineMemberJesus fucking christ ! Look at the whining grumpy bums !
New FLA still has guitars, stop the grizzles !Posted 1 year ago # -
raedarius
offlineMember@ ACB,
Hijacking the thread for a moment, do you have the earlier material by The Spectrometers? I just got the 10" and hadn't realised that there were other releases until today.
Posted 1 year ago # -
The Black Oil
offlineMemberGenesis was with TG for all the recent live dates. I haven't heard anything about he/she quitting the band.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Cretin Dilettante
offlineMember@ Tsarik
You're wrong, it wasn't made as an contrary to rock. Industrial was made to mock most popular music, including rock and pop (See: United, Zyklon B Zombie). The focus eventually went from being angry and hateful (Aside from NON and maybe Current 93) to just making cool new sounds (Some bands were already that way, but I consider the breakup of TG to be important because of all the well known and influential side projects that spawned from this event)
Posted 1 year ago # -
soillodge
offlineTech Moderator@Cretin-take a moment and read some of the history of "Industrial Records". It was not created in sarcasm. GPO and Monty wanted to make something that was completely far removed from what was being made and enjoyed at the time. They did not want blues or jazz influences at all, they wanted to make sound with unconventional methods. Therefor what they did can be simplified by saying that wanted to make something contrary to rock.
`michael
Posted 1 year ago # -
I think the irony is, that either indie or pop producers and artists mostly go in to the music-making of a song or work to eventually be consumed by mass, or at least a distinguishable idea transmitted that can be received, or as if it has to be the "end-all-be-all" the cutting edge of hip-hip or industrial, or noise or whatever; and
industrial seems completely for it's own sake- alientating and even narcissistic to an extent: Burroughs' philosophy: how to "disrupt the control circuit"; why, becasue as humans we naturally follow suit, we want to be "be inside" and this is something that must be broken if we are to become true willing deciders of our own destiny.
In the light of TG, i am not assuming i know what it's intent was, but these few people's ideas spawned much of what has been lost: a new way of thinking that perhaps most of us missed was the concept of transience and "disposable music/art".
But there we are again as artists, forced to make a choice- what genre is it? Who is my audience/market? Will it be popular? etc. etc. These things have to go. Since inspired by Gyson's concept of "here to go", i think much of what could set apart our scene is this idea of not taking at all any of this seriously, (especially watching recent TG performances, it's pretty much f-all..yet, there's some still "cool guys" in the crowd actually trying to bob their heads or even dance along...?) I mean, there we see the originator completely off his rocker in every way, sex change and all, moaning and screaming to atonal repetitive loops and guitar screeching-
it certainly re-sheds light on what appealed to me in the 1st place- the message of "...everything is permitted..", that we want an escape from judgment itself and ego and all the trappings thereof; it seems the question of "Why does no-one like industrial music?" is answered by "why the desire to like/be liked in the first place?"
Perhaps the problem is identity- know everyone knows who we are and how we dress- they know what to expect. This has to go- we should be as diverse and undefinable to ourselves as to the rest. The culture sorts itself out.Posted 1 year ago #
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