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   Static23
   

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   Just in case the old thread doesn't get added back in, maybe we can pick up where we left off...

   So.. Got the Dangerous D-Box and Schippman Ebbe und Flut in this past week.

   The D-Box - AD Converter + 8ch analog summing + monitor control = WIN!
   The sound quality and features crammed into this 1u box make it totally worth the price.
   The Presonus Central Station can suck it!

   Now onto the Ebbe und Flut. All I can say is, wow. This thing can go from smooth to evil. It makes a perfect companion to a Sherman Filterbank.

   Here's a quick and dirty demo of a drum loop from an XBASE 999. The kick and the snare are being processed by the Ebbe und Flut. http://signaltonoize.net/stuff/xbase999-ebbe_und_flute.mp3

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   moonitor
   

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   Bought an Acoustic guitar yesterday. Great stuff.

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   Static23
   

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   What kind did you get?

   I've been thinking of getting an new acoustic bass. I miss my old one that developed legs of it's own and walked off. It was fun just sitting around on my porch, drinking a beer and playing some blues.

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   MyParasites
   

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   i got a Novation X-station
   thing is hella badass.

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   virul3nt
   

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   Static: if you've got a mo', please talk to us about your D-Box summing unit!

   I'm new to the concept of summing...
   Do you use the D-Box in conjunction with a multi-output soundcard and if so, which one do you use? Is the theory that you run 4 stereo outs from your soundcard into the D-Box, it "sums" it, and then you run the output either back into the soundcard or off into a DAT machine or similar?

   Is the entire point of this unit (apart from monitor switching) that it improves the quality of your mixes over simply (in Cubase) setting the left & right locators and rendering the audio? If so, is it *really* worth it? Does it really give it that extra 5%? Or am I missing the point here?

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   YADE
   

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   got myself some new soundbanks from Manuel Schleis for my JP8080 and my Supernova..HELL they ROOOOCK!

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   Static23
   

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   @virul3nt

   I really haven't had the chance to make use of the summing bus of the D-Box yet. I want to pick up a new AD converter for that rather than running the summed mix back into the sound card.
   I'm using an RME HDSP9632 sound card with a Lucid 88192 converter. Sending the 8 busses of my Speck Xtramix to the Lucid, then the Lucid send the 8 channels to the RME for tracking in Cubase. Then I have the AES output of the RME going to a AES input on the D-Box for monitoring and 3 stereo channels and 2 mono channels going to the Lucid and into the summing bus on the D-Box.

   As far as just listening tests so far, there is definitely a difference between monitoring the master output of Cubase as compared to summing the 8 channels. The D-Box is definitely working some magic in there. So after I get a AD converter put between the summed channels and the RME, I will be recording back into the DAW for the final mix.
   I also plan on picking up some more outboard gear to run on the final mix before recording into the DAW. Probably gonna put together a 500 series lunchbox.

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   Signal Flow:

   Speck Xtramix - 8-Bus Outputs (2 Stereo/4 Mono) Analog to Lucid 88192.
   Lucid 88192 - ADAT I/O to RME HDSP9632
   Lucid 88192 - Analog Outputs (3 Stereo/2 Mono) to Dangerous D-Box - Analog Summing Inputs.
   RME HDSP9632 - AES Output to Dangerous D-Box - AES DAW Input.
   *Dangerous D-Box - Sum Outputs to outboard EQ/Compressor, then from outboard gear to AD converter back into the AES input on the DAW and recorded back into Cubase. At least that's the plan anyway... ;)*

   After I get everything setup, I'll throw up some A/B comparisons for ya'll to check out if you want.

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   Static23
   

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   oh yeah, so if any of ya'll got a recommendation for a decent 2-channel AD converter for around $1000 US, let me know. I might fork over the cash and go for an API A2D, but haven't decided if I want to spend that much yet...
   No shop around me had anything I can go and demo that is above M-Audio/MOTU quality. bleh!

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   virul3nt
   

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   Thanks for that. And yeah please do post some A/B samples.

   What I'd like to hear is 2 versions a) rendered from the DAW 100% in-the-box and b) through all that jazz, bussed into the D-Box and then back into the DAW via a nice A/D converter. This I would *love* to hear!

   At this point I do everything ITB. Wondering if my mixes will become clearer and more separated-sounding if I break it out into some analogue units.

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    For that matter, would you say that a good ADC is essential to make the most of something like the D-Box?
    Sorry probably should start a new thread at this point...

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    Static23
    

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    I would say a good ADC is essential.
    I don't see much of a point in keeping everything clean as possible, only to be limited by the conversion going back into the DAW. Unless you are printing straight to tape after summing it ;)

    I have a Lucid AD9624 sitting in the closet I am thinking of pulling out and trying out with it. After I get to take a break from the normal job next month, I'll actually have some time again to make music. Then I'll put up some A/B tests for ya!

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    Static23, are you using any outboard units/hardware on the 'dubtest(Demo)' track? the track is very tight in the ears. good job. nice minimal downtempo track to boot. i am also curious to hear the A/B comparisions between 100% daw and then using the d-box, etc.

    gearwise, i just bought beyerdynamic dt770's can finally hear what is actually going on since i don't have any good acoustic space for expensive monitors and such. there are some slight reporting deficiencies in the middle frequencies (but after some time i will learn where to make the necessary adjustments) but highs report accurate and lows too. so far, i'm quite satisfied.

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    Static23
    

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    actually, the dubtest(demo) was done all in-the-box. mostly sample banks i made in Kontakt, Addictive Drums, and Absynth. my studio was currently residing in storage when i started work on that. the final version of the song will be on the Zero Demographic comp. it was the only thing i was able to salvage off of my old comp before it died... :(

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    Jairus Khan
    

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    I would love to hear some A/B of the D-Box.

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    KryonikMessiah23
    

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    I got ReCycle. Great program for Drum n Bass.

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    rayzr
    

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    From my post on the old forum, I had stated that I'd picked
    up a MOTU 828 MKII from Guitar center on clearance for $400.

    It ended up being defective (go figure), The unit would not
    respond to the CueMix software on the PC or Mac in various
    different operating systems, I ended up taking it back
    and picked up Cubase 5.

    I've made an order recently for the MOTU 828 MKIII and an
    Odyssey L-stand with tray included, Which should be arriving
    any day now.

    Still have yet to get the Remote SL MKII, Maschine, Yamaha HS80M's,
    and light solution for my notebook (live performance).

    I'll be dismissing the M-audio Mobile-pre USB, M-audio Axiom 61,
    and Behringer Eurorack UB802.

    @myparasites, my keyboardist has an x-station. His cat pissed on it
    and it still works! The fact that it acts as an all-in-one recording
    solution is pretty damn cool.

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    YADE
    

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    well save your money on the HS80M.....and buy some used decent monitors.....especially when you try to make organic mixes the will fool you all the way .....my experience...we returned ours pretty fast....

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    rayzr
    

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    thanks for the tip! i had them put on hold since they were clearance
    and now i know why. maybe i would be better off going the mackie route.

    the krk rokit's seem to be popular yet i hear so much trash about them.

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    samdevos
    

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    recently bought a Marshall echohead delay-pedal and a Marshall Guv'nor Plus distortion pedal

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    Static23
    

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    Just got my Virus TI setup today.

    So far good and bad. Getting use to layout of some of the new features.
    I think the TI plugin is a good idea but doesn't seem to well implemented, at least to me.

    Getting really bad MIDI timing using the plugin with both the VST2 and VST3 versions in Cubase 5. Yet if I use it standalone without the plugin running, the MIDI is tight even when it's being transmitted through the USB connection.

    So for now. I think I'll just use the plugin as a editor & librarian for the Virus. Definitely like it a lot better than the old Soundiver editor ;)

    Now off to find a good 2ch A/D converter...

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