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   Jamez
   

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   Im not talking about transitions between song and song, but rather heavy mixing or mashing up tracks.

   The past saturday I had a guest Dj from chile playing on the club where im resident and he didnt played a single "clean" track, he mixed beats/samples/rythms from various songs in a single continuous song, i liked it but pretty much killed the dance floor.

   After a while the club owner told me to make him stop =/ he left saying stuff like "in europe most industrial djs play like this, its not my fault your crowd doesnt get it" among other things.

   So my question is, where you live, do Djs play "clean" tracks with transitions in between or they fully mix songs making them diferent from the original? (im talking about adding other songs beats/rythms/samples through the full set, not just a couple of tracks)

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   ebmboy
   

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   It depends on where you are. Some places like to hear the entire song, some people like smooth transitions. Most people like this music like the originals and dont like to hear entirely new mixes done on a club night by a DJ. This is not an insult to fans or DJs, just stating how I see it.
   I've heard it done lots of different ways, I personally tend to hate the one continuous song thing.. I like some breaks in the tracks, as long as the songs go well together.

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   Tyrant
   

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   I'm sure it depends on how well it's done too and whether the tracks compliment each other.

   I've heard this done with power noise and it's awesome. Not so much with electro-industrial.

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   When I was living in Brazil people knew how to separate the good DJs from the shit DJs when the good ones remixed their songs right there on the spot while the shitty ones only pressed PLAY/PAUSE.

   Here in the Texas, I only see DJs playing one track in it's entirety until it fades to another track. Boring...

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   i used to always do continuous mixes when mixing, and for a long time even did my live shows like this so i had an hour of non stop extended mixes of my songs that were different than on album. as much as i thought it was cool, and people from other electronic scenes liked it, i found that it just confused most of the industrial crowd so i stopped doing it.

   when i dj now i usually do two or three nice long mixes / mashups and people love it, but if you do it the whole set goth people just dont get into it.

   and for the record round here, most other industrial djs just do really horrible mixes. either cutting of a song, silence, new song (including long unnecessary intro) or they just mash the songs over top of each other in the most horrible out of synch and clashing keys sort of way. i hate it, that's why i never go to the club unless im booked.

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   TreMisanthrope
   

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   I agree, it depends on where you are. Our local DJ Plastic Disease does mash-ups every now and then (My favorite being her "Shut Me Up" by MSI mixed in with a Drum 'n Bass track) and she's amazing at beat matching. And while it's good to change it up and not mix as such sometimes, it's good if you have some newer tracks you wanna throw in there, get people moving to something other than the typical Vnv and Apop's.

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   Eric Christian
   

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   The best DJ's in my area are Missionary, NON & Sin. They seem to have a knack at not only playing songs that fit well with each other but also they seem to have good skills at blending the transitions together seamlessly. After hearing them I don't think it should be done any other way. They don't do any of that Kaoss Pad horseshit either like adding beats or making songs stutter or any of that other stupid crap. They just play the songs clean. Missionary tore it up at the little FGFC820 shindig a couple weekends ago.

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   ebmboy
   

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   My own personal preference is to hear as much of the song as possible if there are vocals. If there aren't vocals, mix them up.

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   DX
   

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   I prefer mixed, not standard fade in/outs and absolutely hate when they train wreck that shit.

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    I agree on Plastic Disease. I heard her play on vendetta fest and that girl is GOOD. Over here in the Netherlands we beatmatch industrial and EBM. DJ's who are not mixing are considered lame by the crowd. I also do mashups now and then. As long if its done good, the crowd likes it.

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    Psykick Vampyr
    

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    Back in the halcyon days when I used to go out and socialise with people DJs used to play the song until the end, stop it, get the next CD and then play that. Huge periods of nervous silence between songs is the only way to go.

    For me, when I'm what I laughingly refer to as a DJ, I have two modes. One is my Fimbulvetr way of blending up different layers of ambience and maybe a couple of sparse tracks into something new but then we're a chill-out club and can get away with it a bit more. The other is when I manage to get organised enough to do something weirder and I do stuff like play live glitch-mixes of 'Bohemian Rhapsody'. Or Whitehouse with the vocals from Aretha's 'Think' over the top. Or loop the riff from 'Break on Through', slightly off-key and slowly degrading, until it turns into a psych-out Motorhead track.

    Do people like it? Dunno. Don't care.

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    SVII-5AM
    

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    u break tha rules, you get cut negro

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    Psykick Vampyr
    

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    Blimey. I mucked that post up, eh?

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    luca_ew
    

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    In my opinion, if you want to call yourself "dj" you have to be able to beatmix/beatmatch. You could avoid this just if you play goth or rock stuff but it's necessary if you play electronic music. Fade in/out "mixes" or playing complete tracks with 2 seconds of silence (or very long and useless intros) between them is boring and lame, if you ask me :)
    In my experience, I've always been appreciated for beatmixing when I play here in Italy or around Europe.

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    I like both, as long as when they just play whole songs as they are that there is some kind of transition. Whenever I'm stuck out in a metal club all the DJ's just play track after track, no mixing, no transitions, nothing. Just make a playlist and press play. Usually when I go to an industrial venue though I get whole songs, but with really good transitions in between and the odd mashup, but I wish they would do do more of them, because sometimes the DJ's really have something to offer when they mix up other tracks

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    Brapley
    

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    I didn't even know it was possible to remix/mash-up digital music as it is playing. I have heard industrial mash-ups in a club once, but I assumed they were prepared in advance.

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    Tsarik
    

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    WILL PROBABLY PISS YOU OFF.

    beatmixing/matching isn't hard

    the only reason i ever appreciated a DJ was when they played a lot of music that i liked, especially when it was something i never heard before

    when i was younger.. i always thought DJs had a huge knowledge of knowledge of the music in whatever scene they DJ'd most

    i think my vitriol towards DJs is because they seem to held in high regard by many... while i think what they're doing is fucking cake

    i blame DJ's for the "controllerism" movement too

    i guess i've wasted my time learning how to play instruments and write music... what i should be doing is mashing buttons, fucking with faders and swiping my finger across a kaos pad.. oh and beat matching lolerskates

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    holyassfuckingmoses
    

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    "because they seem to held in high regard by many..."

    yeah, themselves.

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    OP has made me a sad truck
    http://imgur.com/N03n6

    Where originality and talent is scoffed at because drunk people need obvious music to dance to. Especially sad because the progressive electronic music scene that we are stealing from has a much more receptive and interactive crowd. They have been hearing mixing & mashing forever so it is just a common trend. "Industrial", "DJs" [yeah I had to quote both because it is so faux] for the most part just drop a playlist. And it tends to be the same playlist week after week. It is not at all challenging and their excuse is "this is how the audience wants it". Eh..fucking tools, just be arrogant pricks like those prog DJ's. Play what the hell you want and TELL the audience this is what they want to hear. When did this scene get so weak and acclimatized? I swear, if this scene was so inept all those years ago when i got into it, I would have never wasted my damn time. I got into this shit because it was edgy, it was intelligent, it was exhilarating, and it was above all uncompromising. NOW wtf is going with it?

    For you 10 or so DJ's out there that are challenging the status quo and kicking ass. Thank you! More power to you. The rest of you wasted assholes. Get the fuck off my lawn!

    `michael

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    soillodge
    

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    hmm..excuse me, I made a mistake. This is an international forum. My ranting and complaints were directed at my fellow US citizens. Every time I have been outside the US and attended an industrial club it has been an enjoyable experience. Just clarifying.

    `michael

    Posted 1 year ago #

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