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saw him live with The Guantanamo School of Medicine.
Good stuff. Totatlly not my cup of tea but the gig was excellent. stagediving,moshpitting and other stuff that cyber people are afraid off.
too bad I didn't have much money, wanted to buy his LARD LPs ... oh well... next time.
Rogue Process
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Dead Kennedys were one of the few punk bands that I thoroughly enjoyed. Not heard of this new band he's in though.
the show was very good. lots' of anti-corporatism, -slavery and overall -administration talks and everything.
This show also reminded me of a thought I had about our "scene". As the show was in not really the best club here in Lodz, the lights were... well ... 90's-disco like and everything but the show itself was mindblowing. Jello had a kilt, and a stars&stripes shirt for 2 songs, and then he was just in t-shirt, old jeans and some adidas trkking type shoes... the crowd went wild anyways...
why does "dark-independent" bands need fancy lights... fuck-off costumes and "i'm the god" attitude? not to mention stuff like "40 sandwitches with ham, 3 with cheese, 4 star hotel, booze this, booze that and pack of cigs... oh and afro-american newspaper from a year ago..."
I mean wtf... are we such crap artists, crowd that we need all that to coverup our inability to have fun ?
Rogue Process
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Yeah, on a tangentially related note, seeing CeDigest live was a breath of fresh air because there was absolutely no makeup or stage costumes or anything of the sort. It was literally just a bunch of guys going up onstage and rocking the fuck out. And it was fucking brilliant.
Mauricio Bratifisch
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I admire Jello Biafra a lot, personally. I have the first LARD album, and I also like Dead Kennedys a lot too.One thing Jello shares with Industrial is something that both Punk/Hardcore and Industrial scenes misses nowadays:the counter cultural element. He's an expert on this subject. I think that if Jello and Genesis P-Orridge united forces on something, It would be awesome.
Eric Christian
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"One thing Jello shares with Industrial is something that both Punk/Hardcore and Industrial scenes misses nowadays:the counter cultural element."
Blow hard hypocrite preaching the evils of capitalism whilst whoring himself around the world...
CharlieAngel
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He'd make a lot more money if he did a reunion tour with DK, which he refused because he thought that was a blatant cash-in. Is he performing new stuff or DK stuff, that's the question? If the former, I've got no problems with it. If it's the latter, I have no problems with it. Man's gotta eat.
Mauricio Bratifisch
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Exactly. To live in this world you have to have money. Even JB cannot live of air, sunlight or beeze.
And there are many other things he attacks than capitalism.
Jello does standup. Tells the story of getting busted for the Frankenchrist album artwork.
http://brainwashaudio.com/transfer/07-Jello%20Biafra-Excerpts%20From%20Tales%20From%20the%20Trial.mp3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_Landscape
The Black Oil
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I dunno. I'd say Rollins is a much bigger hypocrite than Jello. Agree or disagree with him, Jello lives his principles from what I can tell.
as I understand it, the problem people like Jello & Rollins have with America is the gap between the Liberty/Democracy we've all been sold & the Capitalist Republic we tend to live under. money is the deciding vote, not the people. on the other hand popular opinion is 2 wolves & a sheep deciding what's for dinner. i don't think there's any perfect answer. the founding fathers were slave owners who wrote "all men are created equal". civilization seems to be rooted in hypocrisy. i respect their efforts, though they may be flawed.
Jairus Khan
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Why is Rollins a hypocrite?
Jello reminds me a lot of a socal Martin Atkins. They're both punks who managed to keep a business going while under fire for being punks who manage to keep a business going.
@Jairus Khan: people give him shit for appearing in films like The Chase & Bad Boys 2.
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Jairus Khan
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Ah. Well, to me, 'selling out' means compromising your art for the sake of financial gain. So unless he's personally campaigned against the horrors of hollywood, or he recorded a family-friendly Black Flag song for a Disney movie, then I don't care. It's not like Against Me, who did a whole fucking DVD about how major labels are evil, then signed to a Warner imprint a year later.
designfemme
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Personally it doesn't bother me if a punk icon of the 80s start appearing in movies (and don't forget, Biafra did cameos too), but if I were to pick one with the most sincerity, it would be Ian MacKaye. He seems to prefer a much lower profile than either Rollins or Biafra anyway.
I loved when he was in the Dead Kennedys and refuse to see that band since he's no longer in it. I can't listen to them without Jello. They should change the name.
I saw him do spoken word and it wasn't horrible but it definitely wasn't impressive. It was like when Henry Rollins began doing political spoken word and the response was "you were much better in Black Flag."
While it's great to see politically active musicians these people often aren't the best political speakers. Biafra had nothing to say that hadn't already been said by Chomsky.
Rogue Process
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I don't think Henry Rollins is a hypocrite, as far as I can tell anyway. But I do think he's a complete toolbag of the higest order. Like, I've never witnessed anybody so unashamedly up themselves and self-important. And people actually go and pay money to sit and watch him spout arrogant, narrow-minded drivel for hours. Crazy.
i find both of them entertaining. as long as you don't read too much into it or try to form a political party around them, it's just story telling from people with unique life experiences.
EBMHaircut
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There's always room for Jello! I haven't heard about this new stuff either. Sounds pretty good. Gotta get the album asap!
Alot of good points here. What i don't get is how people expect punk idols to adhere to some kind of punk ethics code. I mean wasn't it all about anarchy to begin with?
digitalgeist
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I used to have a lot of his side projects (he did one with No Means No and one or two others...I had them on cassette but they're long gone now). His spoken word is not only funny but really interesting. Check out "I Blow Minds for a Living" if you haven't already, it's got a really funny story about how he ran for mayor of San Francisco and came in 4th!
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