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  • Started 1 year ago by Rogue Process
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  1. ...then you ain't heard shit yet, son!

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  2. stmayhem1

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    "basically, we're dealing with insanity. this is feeble.. this is intellectual vacuum, it's a sonic mess, he's creating disturbace because he's.. disturbed! the man's mentally incompetent.."

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  3. I actually like it, it has a charming edginess to it. Reminds me of Simon Finn (one of my favourite musicians ever), if he were unable to sing or write lyrics.

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  4. I was thinking more along the line of Capt. Beefheart myself...

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  5. shapeshifter

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    This (along with Capt. Beefhart) is called "outsider music" by some. Another example:

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  6. Hey, don't get me wrong, the Legendary Stardust Cowboy is fucking brilliant in his own way. Bear in mind, he's a huge cult figure and the inspiration for countless hugely influential musicians including David Bowie, and is credited for singlehandedly kickstarting psychobilly.
    For me though, it's quite a succinct counter-argument to those who say that industrial/electronic music is all crap that takes no talent to make. Maybe talent isn't all it's cracked up to be ;)

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  7. Sewn

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    I am going to have to agree with Rogue on this one. These bands suck. Terror EBM vocals are way better than any of this stuff.

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  8. silikonanswer

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    I have a punk ethic, nothing stops you for making what you want. At least you are trying something and not watching tv all day. Now you only need a computer to make electronic music. There are tons of free tools out there.

    My two cents on the matter.

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  9. Agreed silikonanswer, I usually look at the below three aspects of a musical piece when judging it (whether intentional or not):

    1. Talent (composition/production/vocal skills)
    2. Artistic qualities (stuff like deep lyrics, uniqueness in the sound, the little details you discover over time, anything that makes you think about the music)
    3. Attitude (that difficult to define aura around a work, based on the intentions and ideals of the person or people who produced it, as well as references to other work and stuff that speaks to (or provokes) only certain people)

    All three play a part in how much I like the music (track or artist) - #3 is clearly the most subjective part, and I'd put personal genre preferences under this as well, like, I like a good energic minimal EBM band even if the music is stereotypical and easily made, and has no artistic qualities. #3 might also easily conflict with the other two points, especially #1, since too much effort in the production and following specific conventions usually drives the piece away from the immediate unfiltered qualities of #3 (and some cases also #2).

    Also, I guess there's a fourth factor, which is best described as "hype", which a lot of mainstream music falls into by definition, but it's one I tend to ignore.

    In the case of this music (and often in punk music) #3 shines, but it's subjective, because none of the other factors are present at all.

    Am I making sense to you? It's difficult for me to explain this in a language that's not my native.

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  10. silikonanswer

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    Totally agree. Attitude and that extra "something", maybe passion? I don't now what that extra "spark" is but probably that is why I don't feel anything for most of mainstream music. Under the ultra expensive production something is lost...

    And the same happens with films. I watched the new Tod Solonz films some days ago and has make me think a lot. The dialogues are intelligent and brutal at the same time.

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  12. djtekslave

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    Why am I listening to these videos and thinking about Current 93 ?

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  13. Well the first guy I posted has been performing with C93, and they made a cover of one of his songs. I like his stuff way, way better though.

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  14. djtekslave

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    I feel so knowledgeable now for guessing it was C93 related... thank you Sumez, you made my day.

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  15. This guy is from decades before C93 though, but they were the ones who digged him up from the past. The original version of his first album is worth quite a penny.

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  16. klondike

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    Anybody have that cd put out by Boyd Rice? I think Ralph Geen was his name. Reminds me a bit of this.

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