@Apexxx- so you want to argue that the silly horror imagery is not similar?
`michael
Electro, gothic, noise, darkwave from the Side-Line
@Apexxx- so you want to argue that the silly horror imagery is not similar?
`michael
It's slightly similar. Yes they both use horror imagery but God Mod has used it alot longer than DOA. They dont take it to the extent DOA has though. DOA has taken it to the point of being retarded. God Mod makes it so that's "spooky" but fun imo.
Really? Slightly similar? I am sorry guys, but this:
http://img.youtube.com/vi/YgE2TVdhTrE/0.jpg
and this:
http://img1.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/b/3/4/17/4017547_l_1634466db26e0c5436b7841e4ed05284.jpg
Look like the same idea to me.
I am not even talking about the music at all. I agree DOA is garbage, and though I am not really a fan of GM I really do respect Jasyn as a musician. I am just comparing that when he came out in the scene, around the same time as us and the Retrosic were in the newcomer spotlight. He was just a guy in some black clothes, it was very non-pretentious and all the ideas and concepts were within the music. The first couple albums were really cool. Now it appears, as impurfekt was pointing out. That the concepts have been dumbed down and the "halloween" imagery has taken more of a forefront. This is disappointing, and it seems like a lot of bands have been taking this route in the past couple years.
`michael
They actually remind me more of Suicide Commando, the last Suicide Commandos Cd included songs about severed heads and their video was even a cheesy serial killer type with deady girls, but I guess SC gets a pass cause well they've been doing it longer and are allowed to change things up after a few years.
Sorry GodMod! The ppl have spoken and your not allowed to change!
Give it another go after a few years
ah..point taken :)
`michael
give me a hug mike!
*hug* :)
`michael
yeah i think DoA takes themselves seriously and are trying to make as much $$ as possible, thus jumping genres into the metal scene.
God Module is more about the "Spooky" fun of it all, and see their music more as "ART". Im sure they want to make money too, but that's not really the priority.
i dont usually get in the middle of these kinds of debates, as I realize everyone has a different view of everything, but God Module is one of my favorite bands. that, and i was a bit drunk last night :)
Oddly enough, I am actually really happy about Johans latest release. It it certainly an improvement over "Blind, Torture, Kill". I feel like he took what people said and made an effort to improve. He stepped things up a notch and added more variety (similar to his older releases). He reminded all the "scene" terror bands what real industrial is.
Don't mess with the Johan.
The definition of "sell out" would be as such: An artist who compromises his/her artistic vision in pursuit of money.
If God Module's current themes/imagery are done for the sole purpose of making money, and are in no way related to their artistic ambitions, then they would, yes, be selling out. Though, I have a sneaking suspicion these are guys who love the Halloween image and wanted to incorporate it into their music. If you were not aware, Byron also produces his own horror movies on the side.
Hypothetically, if some underground artist eventually moved on to a more accessible sound, made it big and became a millionaire, one still couldn't call him a sellout. If said artist truly wanted to move in such a direction, who would have the right to deny them that? I think music fans make far too many assumptions on behalf of the artists they listen to. Even worse when fans project their own expectations upon an artist. Ridiculous.
GOD MODULE are doing what they want to do, their way...they love horror movies and I knew that for a long time as me and Jasyn go way back...they are doing what they want, and in no way is this "selling out"! their music and vocals do not sound commercialized to me...they sound a bit more refined, and defined of what they want to do..the new EP is real good and it does have their own sound I would say..especially the vocals..good work guys! much love from CYBERAGE, DSBP, AND DIVERJE!! hey, if anyone can sell anything these days, i wish them lots of luck! nothing wrong with making a buck or 2!!
I agree with Closetohuman 100 percent. I don't see this band as trying to cash in on anything. Infact anyone who gets into creating this music who think they will make a living off it are just well stupid. You are better off trying to make something like hiphop or more commerical radio friendly dance music like Basshunter.
There is a major difference between attempting to make a living off your art, and expecting to become rich off of it. There are people willing to sacrifice everything in life to pursue their dreams. In my opinion, someone who forgoes the comforts of modern living in order to starve and make art shouldn't be persecuted if it actually pays off in their lifetime.
The real tragedy is when artists who starved and suffered for their art succeed, then get lazy and stop trying.
And I have to reiterate, even if God Module switched up their sound to something entirely pop, they would NOT be sellouts if it was part of their ultimate goal/vision, whatever...
@Closetohuman
I just do not think it should be someone's main goal with art; the number one goal should be you love doing it. Don't get me wrong though when I hear about someone who makes a living off of doing something on the lines of as of playing dark electro I think thats awesome and kudos to them. They achieved something I wish I could do and thats escape the rat race.
Is this spooky dance music Halloween zombie b-grade horror movie schtick that God Mod have evolved into completely ridiculous almost to an embarrassing degree? Yes. Is it selling out? Not at all. People have to be buying what you're selling for that to happen, and as we know, that's not happening in this scene, especially not for these little middle-of-the-road bands like God Mod who are moderately known but nowhere close to being big.
The only 'crime' they're committing here other than being ridiculously lame is trying to get on this death & horror Hot Topic bandwagon that kicked in full force when Combichrist managed to make it work for them. Since then, everyone is trying to copy the same image formula of blood & gore right from everything Seb Komor touches to Suicide Commando to God Mod. Apparently in this scene if you’re not trying to look like some sort of militant arse in combat boots & uniform coats, you’re trying to look like you feel out of a 1970’s slasher flick. There’s not a lot of in between anymore. Sadly.
@ Sewn: The main goal of any artist should be to make art. But if your need to create art is so strong, and your main desire in life is to do nothing but that, then you also need to have your eye on the business end of things as well. These days you can't just be an artist with a record label behind you doing all the work. You have to be an entrepreneur. Hip hop artists realized this a long time ago.
I personally don't give a shit what God Module do as long as the new album's good.
I've listened to numerous bands, who in my opinion, only got good AFTER they supposedly 'sold out'.
The main example who I can think of would be AFI, who got roundly accused of selling out after they left Nitro Records and signed to Dreamworks to release Sing The Sorrow. But creating Sing The Sorrow would simply not have been possible without Dreamworks' funding. It was such a densely layered, thickly produced album, that would have just not have been possible on a small budget at that point in time.
The only 'scene' band who I think could really be accused of 'selling out' is VNV Nation, who seem to have made a deliberate effort to go in a more indie-rock direction. But then again, Ronan was a fan of bands like Interpol way back when VNV were still pure futurepop. So who's to say? The whole selling out debate is silly, as very few bands have truly done so.
closetohuman has it right for sure..very wise observation, and I agree..
for some reason though, when musicians want to make $$ in this scene they are said to be "sellouts", its laughable really, as most dudes with regular desk jobs make way more than musicians are making on a weekly basis...or just about any of these jobs most people have with "computer programming/tech/support" whatever...
so,lets stop getting upset here if one of our fellow sideliners/bands wants to eat and have gas for their tour...these guys aren't getting rich! they are just trying to live!
in reality it is business sense...if you lay out X amount of dollars on a release of some other band you like(or your own) and want to help be released and you are wanting to make that X amount of dollars back, it just means you are being smart and trying to recoup and not lose what you invested..that is business 101, and I assume most have taken that course at one point or another?
it is interesting the difference between the hip hop and industrial/EBM scenes..
the hip hop fans want their friends/artists/rappers to make money and be rich, so they buy the music and support it like fucking crazy!!I know alot of these people, living in New Mexico and all, the hip hop scene here is huge...and they always are buying CD's I notice, and don't even do much downloading, from the dudes I talk to..they are too busy getting high, recording vocals, and banging chicks..lol
the industrial/ebm scene, on the other hand, seems to want to crucify or at very least criticize any band that is making anything or just wants to make anything..weird??
me, personally, I want to see these bands in our scene ALL make lots of Money!! so they can keep making records, keep touring, putting out CD's and t-shirts and have a little fun in their hard working lives..whats so wrong with that????
The singer should lose weight. Not joking I don't want him to die. I'm a big dood he is like 4 of me. If Isaac(cesium) can do it anybody can do it.
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