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ELECTROHEAD
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Front Line Assembly will have an exclusive tour EP, "Angriff" (Attack), taken from their album "Improvised Electronic Device ".
This EP will only be available at the band's concerts. This limited EP contains five new versions of "Angriff", two previously unreleased new songs plus a radio edit.
The remixers are Project Pithfork, Tim Skold (Marilyn Manson / KMFDM), Mindless Faith, tour colleagues mind.in.a.box and FLA themselves.
djtekslave
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I'm interested in the Mind.In.A.Box and Mindless Faith remixes the most.
Not sure I'll get the whole EP, but maybe just the interesting tracks off Emusic.
S80
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yay for EBAY...No Toronto dates is a LOLRETARDMOVE
raedarius
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Hmm, the UK part of the tour has already happened. Irritating, as I would have bought this.
xeno
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that is just evil, creating all those sweet remixes, and then making them unavailable to those of us who aren't able to attend the concerts - kinda like
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panzerschreck
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"No Toronto dates is a LOLRETARDMOVE " yeeeeep
AlanVext1
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exclusive tour EP....sorry, no. that is so fuckin shit.....these will be impossible to get...balls to that.
Isaias Co.
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Guess I'll just download it.
amiles
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Yes, exclusive tour EP! Really, so what about the dates already gone? E.G UK!
Saying that: five new versions of "Angriff" - will it be worth it?
Only if each remix is vastly different! It would have been batter for two remixes and an exclusive track.
The Other Sumez
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Anyone heard it? Considering picking it up on the tour
AlanVext1
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I'll give you 50 euro for that ep plus a t shirt in medium.
not joking.
darkessence
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Mind.In.A.Box do great remixes..... but...
I don't like my chances of the tour reaching Australia.
just got my copy of IED
fucking love it. guitars fit it well and there is still plenty of electronic mayhem. favorite album this year thats for sure.
ELECTROHEAD
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Here is the complete tracklist:
FRONT LINE ASSEMBLY: "ANGRIFF" - EPCD:
01 Angriff (radioactive mix by FLA)
02 Attack the Masses
03 Angriff (Mindless Faith mix)
04 Der Angriff (Skold mix)
05 Freakuency
06 Angriff (Mind.In.A.Box mix)
07 Angriff (Project Pitchfork mix)
08 Angriff (Radio Edit)
Would have been great to include "Day Of Violence" there as well.
Track #2 can also be found on the new Septic IX - Sampler.
AlanVext1
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That's a little different to Metro's digital version: http://www.metropolis-mailorder.com/digital.php?prodnum=MET+694D
Angriff (Radioactive Mix) 7:28
Angriff (Mindless Faith Mix) 5:39
Angriff (Radio Edit) 4:32
Der Angriff (Skold Mix) 7:40
Freakuency 7:08
Angriff (Mind.In.A.Box Mix) 7:05
Angriff (Project Pitchfork Mix) 6:43
StormingTheBase
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We will be announcing this later in this week's newsletter, but you can order the CD from us here: http://www.stormingthebase.com/details.asp?ProdID=10967
so storming the base is selling a remix CD for more than what i purchased the actual album for
no wonder people opt to just download music for free
Stefan Herwig
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I am sorry Tsarik, but I do not relate to your point here. The Angriff E.P. is an E.P. exclusively released in europe. Eureopen export CDs are always more expensive if shipped to the US, and fluctuations in currency exchange make it usually worse.
I will gladly sell you the Angriff P for 5 €, if you COME TO MY DOOR, and get it from our office at Horster Strasse 31 in Gelsenkirchen, GERMANY. You will probably not make the benefit of this offer as your travel expenses will probably largely override the lower price. So pleas understand that shipping CDs over countries, incurring custom expenses and undergoing currency exchanges and fluctuations will result in a price range. its pretty essential economics.
However, the justification to access those remixes for free on the internet against the express will of the artist and the label just shows how stupid of justifications people have in order to access our work. I personally put the remixes together with bill Leeb and we are happy on the quality of (almost) all the mixes we got. I think this E.P. is good value for money.
But I do think that justifications like yours where you juts threaten to access the music for free are furthering the problem in the ling run, and are not a solution of the problem.
You (and Isias.co) Just should ask yourself in the first place WHY THIS EP IS NOT AVAILABLE IN NORTHAMERICA physically in the first place (I presume you live in NA here).
Maybe there is stronger conection between your displayed economic behaviour and the CD EP not being available in the US than you see.
Would like to close this message with two pieces of Info:
1. Metropolis will release this E.P. in Northamrerica digitally in a very short while.
2. This EP will be released throughout europe at the end of this tour. We chose the option to release this EP exclusively on tour before, to get people going to the tour, so they get the benefit of an early access if they can raise up their asses to make it to this tour.
All the best
Stefan Herwig
E101
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I'm sorry, but this entire IED campaign of material has been fucked from jump street. First you get a single that ends up having 2 of its 3 tracks included on the album, then you get an album that comes as a DIGITAL ONLY "deluxe edition" with bonus tracks which instantly fucks collectors AND the people who actually still do buy CDs, and now you get a new second (single being passed off as an EP) of a b-side from the first single which is exclusive to Europe, and according to Storming The Base's price, costs over $17 to buy in North America for 6 versions of the same track, one additional remix of another track, and a bonus track that is also already apart of the digital only deluxe edition of the album. Quite a ballsy move in today's music climate where people don't even want to pay that much for 2-disc sets.
I agree that a lot of people will look for any excuse or justification to download music for free, but it in this case, I don't blame anyone for saying fuck it and just grabbing it from a torrent site. Whether it's Metro's fault or Dependent's, the bottom line is that BOTH the labels seriously dropped the ball here and the only people you're hurting are the people who actually buy CDs. No amount of reasoning, excuses or more of these "this is why labels know best - you freeloaders just don't get it" diatribes change that fact.
If this the mighty record label's version of being innovative, forward thinking and putting the fans first so that they continue to remian interested in AND buy music from their favorite bands, then it's officially game over. As long as labels continue to put out several different editions of each release (standard, deluxe, super deluxe, mega uber deluxe) and start slapping on bunches of bonus content to digital only releases, all arguements against downloading are instantly null & void. Labels can't selectively promote the awesomeness of digital only releases one day and then turn around and bitch that no one is buying CDs anymore the next day. It's all or nothing - time to pick one.
Stefan Herwig
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Hey E101,
thanks for expressing your valid arguments, and I can see a lot of correct background -unlike with what Tasrik wrote.
But let me state the situation from our side:
I agree with the CD single being subpar in terms of haviong too little exclusive material (the exclusive b-side is killer, though), and that is why I asked the band to proivde an additional remix of "Shifting" for the album. So on the european version the single does not have 1 exclksuive track, it has two. So I take your arguments, but we did everything in our poower to remedy this.
Same gpoes with the deluxe version of the track. I would have loved to do a litmited edition physical version, but it was not possible timewise, so I offered to release both B-sides physically. One is already released (Attack the masses on Septic9), and if it was for my decision, the second would be released on
the Angriff EP, but the band preferred to have ATM on there as well. Artists choice that I respect.
Now, the EP costing 17$ over STB is quite heavy, actually. We sell them for much lower, and I need to talk to Artoffact about their prices on this one. I agree this is too expensive. Again, buy the digital version, or dont buy it at all (and let the store know that!). But pirate it instead of buying will NOT improve the situation of physical CDs not cpoming out in your territory in the first place, or them prices going up.
Think of it: dont mix up sympton and cause. And be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem.
"No amount of reasoning, excuses or more of these "this is why labels know best - you freeloaders just don't get it" diatribes change that fact."
Sorry, but I have neiother said that we know best, but the amount of false arguments running around here really distort the situation quite a bit. Exportr Cds have ALWAYS been more expensive in ANY territory at ANY time since the frist vinyl records were imported.
I agree that this campaign was sort of fucked up in the first place, and we tried to adapt to as well as we could. Again, the argument of just getting it without paying just because you dont agree with prices ofr release strategy is being abused too much by too many people here, and it wont solve the problem as well.
Your query and complaint, however, does. :-)
Stefan
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