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   amiles
   

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   Turned up on the doorstep today! Saw one review where it stated it’s not as good as Civilization. Personally must have been on drugs with they listening to it as IED is so much better. More industrial sounding than a nandy pandy dance sound. I love the themes of the songs, nice synths, drum and bass lines plus more guitar/sampled guitar then previous releases (yes, more hard wired era).
   My only grip is that as ‘Stupidity’ was recorded in Al’s studio and the production is slightly different than the rest of the CD. I think the song is great although sounds like Al not FLA. Not really sure why it should have ended up on a FLA CD? Would have been better on the single.

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   Sumez
   

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   You consider Civilization a "nandy pandy dance sound"?

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   kr-lik
   

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   for me it's a good album. Al's song does not fit here AT ALL.

   still i prefer Civilisation I think...

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   silikonanswer
   

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   I think is really good although I don't like guitars. FLA are on a league of their own.

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   amiles
   

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   Civilization to me sounds a little old! Some great songs on there!

   I think the problem with AL's song I suspect FLA had very little to do with it. Written, recorded and produced by AL and then just added to the CD. It's a pity because the song by itself is good just does not really fit production wise with the rest of the album.

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   stmayhem1
   

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   what's not to like here? new FLA album with a bonus Ministry song!

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   kr-lik
   

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   Ministry was ok on the first 2 albums.

   Everyday is halloween damnit!

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   soillodge
   

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   "Twitch", I get. but surely you do not mean "With Sympathy" [Work for Love]?

   `michael

   Posted 1 year ago #
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   I like the album but I have points of contention:

   I think the vocals on IED are too mid-range-ish. You can barley tell what Leeb is saying. My 2 favorite tracks are already on the single.

   Anyone else notice a more than passing similarity between Laws of Deception and Surface Patterns from Millenium?

   just my 2 bits.

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    demog
    

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    i like "with sympathy" too. it's my 2nd best Ministry album after "twitch". i like the funk on it...

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    koz-ivan
    

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    "stupidity" is just a fucking awful song. i had high hopes for that one after the successful collaborations on artificial soldier, but al just overruns the whole thing and it does become much more of a ministry song book ended with a few seconds of fla atmospherics.

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    Decent album. Quite a few classic FLA choruses. Possibly a little too guitar heavy, but I'll get used to it over time. 'Stupidity' is dreadful and horribly out of place. Nice use of the sample from 'Moon' at the end of the cd.

    How about putting 'Day of Violence' on the cd instead of 'Stupidity' and including 'Stupidity' in the deluxe edition only?

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    I have a feeling "Stupidity" was mostly to attract Ministry fans to the album,
    thereby boosting sales, sort of a promo-stunt not to be taken vry srsly.

    That being said I agree with most of the comments regarding it not fitting
    with the production of the album, not just that but the Ministry signature
    guitar sound as well. Al did good on "Smothered Hope", Collaborations are
    not always such a disaster.

    The ambient/electronic tracks ("Afterlife/Downfall" are definitely my favorites
    off the album, however the guitars can add a primal feel to a certain extent.
    "Angriff" is one example where the guitars carried it along while living up to
    it's name, they don't seem to be much of an after-thought.

    Tracks like "Laws of Deception" and "Release" represent the older sound,
    while the guitars are present it doesn't seem they are too invasive and
    remain to add to the overall feel.

    You could say that they were trying to make an album which blanketed all
    of the albums since TNI/Caustic Grip era, going through Hardwired and passing
    by Civilization/Epitaph.

    Not every track is a big hit, and doesn't live up to expectations perhaps.
    I feel as though going forward listeners will be praising it (with the exception
    of "Stupidity") much like the previous albums are today.

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    De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
    

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    I think the Stupidity is ok, though I had it more divided from the rest let´s say instead as No.9 there should be one more oldstyle FLA track with some more agressive vox (I think Bill sings quite softly on most of the album) then No.10 as it is. Then a small outro then the AL track....so it would not split the flow of the album as it stands now... however the instrumental is already a kind of "outro"....mh. So lets swap the instrumental and the new dark+agressive FLA track, then the AL track as a kind of bonus at last.....

    But overall pretty good and their best since Civilisation (which was a tad too soft for FLA)

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    I really love this new FLA album. It is not as desely layered and saturated as I would have liked, but overall a solid album, the prominance of the guitars just makes the whole package meatier in my opinion.

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    As a DJ, I love this album so far. It's got like 6 tracks I can spin at the various nights I work for. From dance to ethereal/ambient. It's the bomb for that. That and I really think the Al guest track is pretty good, even for being a "different" sound.

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    Sumez
    

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    What tracks work for club play other than Shifting Through the Lens?

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    soillodge
    

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    A Ministry track boosting sales for Front Line Assembly? Does that really make sense to you guys?

    Read the Ministry blog, it says the collaboration was thought up by Jeremy Inkel who works with FLA and Left Spine Down-the band opening for Rev-Co on that 2009 tour. That it was also dedicated to Wax Trax.

    It makes more sense as a dedication than it does some promotional booster.

    `michael

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    @sumez: I play at a club that's not just "oontz oontz" for everything and I get to do sound collage stuff, so "Laws of Deception" (which is a sexy track) is a good one (and would actually work for an oontz club just because it's sultry as all hell). "Downfall" is epic and has that harsh emotional resonance that I can use for the ambient portion of my sets. Yes, I know, clubs are supposed to be a DJ up there pressing play and occasionally using the crossfader so people can get their dance on, but I'm working at a club where that's not the case, so we can actually explore more than just dance music.
    Also, "Release" is pretty good too, for it's power ballad feel. It's got a good chorus and the breaks and bridges have a very good groove.

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    I got Shifting through a lens on promo and it didn't really do much for me...the rest of the album better?

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