Electro, gothic, noise, darkwave from the Side-Line
One of THE best DJ's in the industrial/ebm/techno scene Adam X(who for years would only play a club that had turntables) djs with a Laptop and I'm pretty sure he owns ever vinyl and CD he rips to get those songs.
I mean shit it's 2010!!!
There's 3D Television
Get with technology or be left in the dust
x-noize
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@heretic909 that's awesome man! i wish i could chop and cut in sound forge i cant though,but i have high respect for you to actually do what you do,and it totally makes sense to chop most of the intros and outros of tracks..
dr_chop_chop
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if you use 256-320kbps MP3's *nobody* is going to be able to tell the difference from CD, crappy loud club speakers are not going to have that level of fine detail
plus, if you are doing fly gigs, who wants to carry around $2000+ worth of CD's on an airplane? plus if you're doing your own remixing/edits beforehand, then that's even more of a hassle to burn them to CD, etc
that being said, knowing how to beatmatch/mix is important... although most of these "scene" DJ gigs are just excuses to party with some sort of rockstar, i don't think anyone really cares about what music they're spinning..
Jairus Khan
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if you use 256-320kbps MP3's *nobody* is going to be able to tell the difference from CD, crappy loud club speakers are not going to have that level of fine detail
Yeah, I've done ABX tests with the big, not-crappy loud club speakers I play on, and no one can tell the difference even when they're listening for it. Everyone thinks they have magic ears.
Yerrr, I would agree.
I mean, if I have the choice between practicing my mixing for 12 hours, or producing a fat as all fuck track...it's a hard choice, heh. But in saying that, we can do that and get away with it. People still go nuts because it's our presence connecting with our music through the decks. Showtek is another example, their mixing is something to be desired.
* But Showtek blew the roof off against the elite locals.
funny detail that in Switzerland most clubs have nice Mk2's with also nice pickups (ortofon)..but only provide shitty ultaoldschool CD Players.....with no Looping functionality and with a certainty of around 45% to stop your track in the middle when you try to play it off CD-R....
oh and to join the discussion about DJing with what...:-)
I used to burn CD-Rs back in the days when CDs were state of the art...I used original copies some times but then had to discover that they magically disappeared out of my bag when I was not standing in the DJ booth..so I started to use CD-Rs...when Traktor came out , I first used 192Kb MP3, now atm I use if available FLAC (tag-able WAV Format) or if the store only provides MP3, 320Kb MP3...controlled if provided by the club with 2 Control vinyl and additionally spiced up with some old techno-vinyls or houstracks or so *G*..
Ornox
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i bet i'd be a crappy DJ
but i like selection over mixing personally.
greeblies
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"but i like selection over mixing personally."
Me too. When I venture out, I'll take a DJ who plays good stuff and just fades in/out, over one who has to perfectly beat-match every song, but plays only what he wants to hear, or only what "works" with the mix.
drone_tactics
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the selection matters a lot, beat matching isn't a necessity
@Yade i just started using traktor over vdj and traktor's the shit! there's soooo much more you can do w/ it...i also try to get most of my songs in 320kb, i can't stand 128kb or any lower...
@drone_tactics...I would disagree....as long as mix the tracks fluently one into the next, you also can play a not so known or a not-clubhit without empyting the dancefloor....whereas if people stand still for a moment to adapt the new beat...they seem to think "oh I dunno this track...so let's have a drink"....we have here in Switzerland parties where you can empty a dancefloor by just not playing the last 4 years' clubhits....thats really sad....
same here @Austria, most ppl will run away if you play a not so known track with a bad transition, and they keep dancing if you just make a good one. depends on the beat and the tempo of them.
i get realy irritated by djs who let one outro run into the next intro with no beat, most of the time i just wait for some awesome boom but nothing will happen standig still for 30 seconds and listen synth pads. it depends on the Person not if the person is a DJ or musican. i think the "skill" is important.
(i am not a pro on both thing, not an well known//good dj or musican just my peersonal opinion)
I think all of the arguments about DJs playing with CD-Rs, MP3s, 8-Tracks... whatever... is total nonsense and probably comes from the kids who sit there and wank over the newest issue of Future Music and have probably never actually DJed on any sort of regular basis to a real crowd in a real club.
It's all about having a solid, portable, and reliable way to play the music that the crowd wants to hear and not lose too much money or break your back in the process.
If lugging around 300 lbs of records works for you and you're not worried about some asshole stealing your stuff when you go to take a piss or get a rink, be my guest.
I own almost 1000 records and about 4000 CDs. I can not tell you how many CDs I have scratched, lost, had stolen, had drinks spilled on them, etc.
If you're more worried about how cool you look rather than how good of a DJ you are, you're a putz and probably won't be paid very well or be a DJ at any notable club for a very long period of time.
If you can find a club in NYC anymore that has working 1200s, I'd pay you. Hell, most of these places barely have the shitty-level Denon soft button CD decks still. It's a joke.
I don't like to spin off of a laptop, but it's the smartest way to go in terms of how much music you can bring with you and portability. Also, since promoters think that having like 10 DJs in a 4-hour night is a good idea, rather than having 1 or 2 good DJs, it is the easiest way to get in, hook up and break straight down after your set.
darkessence
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@Tumor: "i get realy irritated by djs who let one outro run into the next intro with no beat, most of the time i just wait for some awesome boom but nothing will happen standig still for 30 seconds and listen synth pads."
That is one of my most hated trends.... IMO it only works if you're totally switching genres and even then I think 16 bars is the max this should run for. If there's no major genre switch the break shouldn't last for more than 8 bars
drone_tactics
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i love challenges when it comes to spinning, i just need to learn how to record my mixes on traktor.
i threw a party last night and was mixing dubstep w/ breakbeats and then terrorbanana to ebm, it was a challenge cause i didn't have an open port for headphones, but i went w/ the track diagnostic waves and half of it went pretty well. practice makes perfect :-D
i just wish i could get more gigs, even if i don't get paid, that's not an issue.
as soon as i learn to record mixes, i'll upload some if anyones interested
@darkessence: thats was i think about, there can be a small break but not "until the end of the world" like u say 8 bars or something like that. at some good danceable tracks the Artist build in a undanceable part for much longer that 8bars or a vocal Sample. some times i edit it bevor playing so its gone^^
i am still learning that beat matching and transition but i give my best to do it
sometimes organizers and the audience aspect something else.
When an artist come to spin his fav. music it´s often not the music he makes.
I remember that we had this C.Pohl as guestDJ. He was a quite friendly guy but the music he spun was a bit disapointing for many guests. I don´t want to judge about his skills to spin, but his selected track were not what the guests aspect. Anyways, it was not that big problem....
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