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Atari Teenage Riot reforming?
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vx cheerleader 69
offlineMemberPosted 2 years ago # -
milhouse
offlineMemberAs a big fan of ATR back in the days who didn't moved on, I do like the new single, and I'm extremely happy to hear about their reformation. I think that there's still a place in the music scene for them, even when you have bands like A21 that are around and have pushed the movement initialized by digital hardcore further.
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dodd
offlineTACOS!Where the fuck were they when we needed them the most?
Posted 2 years ago # -
djtekslave
offlineMemberDoes anyone remember Moshpit on Industrial Strength ? Now that was some serious digital hardcore.
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Rogue Process
offlineMember@ milhouse - Is there somewhere you know of where the single can be previewed? I've been scouring the interwebs trying to find it but no luck :( If it turns out to actually be awesome I will be very happy!
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vx cheerleader 69
offlineMemberYEAH !!!! MOSHPIT !!!!!! FUcking great band onstage, and fine guys too !
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dodd
offlineTACOS!@ vx cheerleader 69
Completely off topic but do you know Shane from DeadSkeleton?
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vx cheerleader 69
offlineMemberNot personally, but I really like his music !
Posted 2 years ago # -
milhouse
offlineMember@RP
You can find the single on http://www.atari-teenage-riot.com/, it's played on the news pagePosted 2 years ago # -
dodd
offlineTACOS!@ vx cheerleader 69
He's my co-worker.
I saw you posting his music on another forum that's why I was curious. You might like to know he's been working on new material. ;)
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defaultet
offlineMemberNot that it makes a difference but the genre of "digital hardcore" seems to me like it kind of started in Berlin/Germany and died there. Wasn't the whole point that it was really far left-wing kind of riot music? Anti-Nazi, anti-globalization, anti-NATO, anti-nationalist, etc. And that it came out of the German techno scene with maybe some punk and hip-hop influences?
So, when I go to Wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_hardcore, the article lists all different kinds of bands and music that supposedly are descendants of the "digital hardcore" sound. I'm not familiar with all the bands/labels listed, but I think Drop Bass Network and Bloody Fist are hardcore techno/gabber labels and have nothing to do with ATR and the like. And the article lists Ambassador 21, which on the surface sounds a little similar to ATR (but way, way better in my opinion)-- but judging from the bands that remix/collaborate with A21 it seems like they have nothing to do with any German techno scene, but more to do with power noise bands like PAL and Converter, even :Wumpscut: remixing them.
I don't really have a point here, I just don't think that the term "digital hardcore" is very useful and that it shouldn't really be used outside the context of a small mid-1990s German subgenre. I still have a lot of the 7" that DHR put out in collaboration with Grand Royal of the time. Some of it was pretty good, a lot of it was disposable.
Just seems like people are comparing apples and oranges. It's like if I compare Nitzer Ebb with Combichrist. Yes, they play a similar type of music, but their influences are completely different and they come from a completely different musical, social and cultural background. But Combichrist I think would at least acknowledge having been influenced in some way by the music of Nitzer Ebb.
Whereas, Ambassador 21 may or may not have even heard of Atari Teenage Riot, but I don't think there's really a direct musical line between what A21 does and the "digital hardcore" scene of Germany. Maybe A21 mixes power noise with some Ukrainian punk/hardcore scene, but I don't think that means it should be considered "digital hardcore" because it doesn't come from that mid-1990's German musical, social, cultural background.
Or am I wrong? Anyway, heard the new ATR song, sounds all right but not something I'm interested in now.
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Early Alec Empire is very much in the same vein as the early recordings put out by labels like Suburban base or Moving shadow. Compare
with[+] Embed the video Get the Video Plugin
Both records are from the same year (1993)[+] Embed the video Get the Video Plugin I always envisioned Digital Hardcore as being what it is in that article. A cross between Punk, Gabber and Jungle. As far as A21 goes, i think they are heavily influences by ATR, but maybe not by the stuff ATR was influenced. Not sure. I could ask Alexey next time i see him i guess.
IMHO Digital Harcore started of with the double album "Die langspielshallplatte" by E-de-Cologne. (this album is HIGLY RECOMMENDED. Get it! Its great!)
http://www.discogs.com/E-De-Cologne-Die-Langspielschallplatte/release/70739
two tracks:
[+] Embed the video Get the Video Plugin This was released when Alec Empire was still making his first rave records. I think they also knew eachother given their labels in those days (Monotone and Force inc) colaborated now and then. Empire might have gotten the idea from him, to mix the insanity of E-de-cologne with politics. I am speculating now, but when i first heard ATR and also having the "Langspielschallplatte" album i knew where he got the mustard.[+] Embed the video Get the Video Plugin Posted 2 years ago # -
Oh, i also found out E-de-Cologne became Ec8or later. Well there you go.
Posted 2 years ago # -
raedarius
offlineMemberSaw ATR a couple of times. The Great British Public don't take kindly to Sham 69 covers at the best of times, and the first show descended into an argument between Alec Empire and the audience at one point. The second time, they couldn't get their equipment working and skulked off without an explanation. I'm surprised they picked London for the show. London wasn't impressed...
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Rogue Process
offlineMemberYeah, I remember one of the best things my Mum ever said, when she heard Kids Are United played on BBC Radio 1 one time was "God, Sham 69 were awful. Totally fake punk band".
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Rogue Process
offlineMemberFinally got round to listening to the single... uh...
Don't know quite what to make of that. Seems like a rather weak self-parody of their older work. What happened to all the noise, chaos and insanity that made the older ATR so much fun?
I'm all sad now :(Posted 2 years ago # -
vx cheerleader 69
offlineMember@ Dodd : new material ? These are great news !!!!
Concerning "chaos, noise and insanity"... I saw Ambassador 21 last night (we've been doing some gigs together these days), and there it was. Chaos, noise, insanity... Alexey & Natasha claim they're trying to do "pop", but this is the most barbarian kind of pop ever for sure ! REVOLUTION IS A BUSINESS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE !
Posted 2 years ago # -
defaultet
offlineMember@djkrat,
Thanks for the YouTube links. I'll check those out.
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Rogue Process
offlineMember@ VX Cheerleader - Yeah, A21 are fucking immense :)
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Apexxx
offlineSIDE-LINE MODERATORsaw this on FaceBook just now:
Hanin Elias > Alec Empire: so now i hear from fans that i decided to not do any ATR shows?
I wait for Information and Tickets, i told my family and posted the dates.
I write you emails every day, i sent you the technical rider, my passport information and all i do is wait to join the band.
And now it became a collective and i'm swappable as a membe...r?
You could have told me that i'm no longer part of it instead of using my photos and images for the Reunion that you never wanted! I guess i will be deleted now but as you never give me an answers per email, as u refuse to talk to me about it, i have no other choice.
Hanin EliasPosted 2 years ago #
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