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1st Impressions of VZ-1

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  1. hollowman

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    Several weeks ago I bought this Casio VZ-1 and haven't had the chance to dig into it until I woke up and did it at 2AM this morning. The edit mode is not as difficult to use as many online reviews would have you believe. It makes perfect sense in the Casio way of thinking, which is to say it works well for this unusual synthesis engine. What is inconsistent on an annoying level is the value slider. On some values it doesn't do anything and you are forced to use the increment/decrement buttons. Otherwise getting around isn't too bad. I got stuck with the modes when it came time to save a patch. Play mode is the correct mode for saving an individual patch. I had to go look that up in the book...

    As with the CZ-1 the VZ-1 hides a surprising range of possibilities. The limited amount of waveforms is deceptive because each base waveform can be dynamically altered by the waveshape of another module or combinations of modules. The 3 interactions between modules or within a single module are highly flexible allowing Mixing, Ring Mod and Phase Mod with each controlled by the DCA envelopes. Again Casio kicks many other synth makers in the teeth with its beautiful multistage envelopes with graphical editing. Serious power in them.

    Traditional modulation possibilities are improved over the CZ series by including Tremelo in addition to vibrato. These seem to be patch level and affect all modules at once but where they become interesting is in combi mode. There you can assign the same patch twice for instance with stereo routing and then use an assignable wheel to vary the glide of only one of the patches which then sends the rates of the tremolo/vibrato in each patch at odds with each other. Pretty insane stuff can happen here especially with the modulation waveform set to square wave!

    I have only created one single patch and then built a combi with two of that same patch and I am amazed. Considering that I am really unfamiliar with this machine and only scratched the surface of its editing I came up with this crazy, dynamically distorted and discordant sound that totally blew me away.

    I have had but a glimpse of what can be done with the performance mode and the power on tap there is almost mind boggling to me. This is where the true beauty of this synth lies due to the enormous amount of flexibility in the performance mod matrix. In Casio terms this is called effects. Stupid way to describe what is essentially a modulation matrix of performance control sources that can manipulate patches in an almost object oriented manner.

    You may want to get in line to offer verbal abuse for this statement but this is perhaps one of the awesomest Industrial Music synths I have ever tried. No shit!

    I have to audition some musicians this weekend who want to work with HP9 but I plan to put aside some time to slap a demo together to back up my bold words. You shall see and maybe even agree after hearing it do its thing.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. awesome review

    i had always thought that casio was crap. this year has changed my opinion... but granted my opinion was based on the fact that i've only ever seen casio synths in walmart or best buy... and never any of casio's older synthesizers

    why do you think casio was over looked by so many? they obviously used to innovative, and developed powerful synthesizers and samplers that did what nothing else available did

    do you know what is different exactly about phase distortion compared to phase modulation( yamaha dx FM ) ?

    really glad you found side-line, Mike. you posses an impressive wealth of knowledge about electricity, circuits, synths and music... your passion comes through in every composition and post... now i really want to turn on my synths... yet must study... thats why i'm on side line :P have research i need to do... and got distracted by the green sideline bookmark on my toolbar =(

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. hollowman

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    Wow! Thank you Joshua!!!! :-)
    A funny thing about this VZ-1. The guy I bought it from has been playing in a big time 7 piece corporate event band for like 20 years and he painted over the C and O of the Casio name on the back with black paint. He even listed his ad for the synth as an ASI VZ-1! I guess his shame at playing a Casio was so great he couldn't bear to have the name seen on stage. I used to run into that ALOT in the past when I gigged with my old FZ-1 in the 90s and never understood why people have such a silly prejudiced view of Casio gear. I suppose the name is equated to toy instruments or beginner keyboards or something but even when the company produced such capable professional instruments it is easier and more convenient for people to retain their prejudice. And that is the nature of prejudice whether it is applied to people or synthesizers.

    I know one thing is that people were always really impressed with Casio when I could playback and entire 5-6 minute long techno song as a sample from the FZ-1 by employing its 8 loops per sample to the fullest and then using the same sample make a live mix of the song with an entirely different song structure.

    I cannot say what the particular difference is between Casio's Phase Distortion and Yamaha's FM engines but as I understand it the difference lies in the esoteric math algorithms used in the sound generation. I read someplace that Casio used slightly better math which is believable since they also made digital watches and computers but who knows for sure? The most generic explanation is that FM is modulating the spectrum by altering the frequency of one wave generator with the output from another. As a byproduct phase modulation occurs. In PD synthesis the intended goal is to modulate the phase of one wave generator's output by modulating it with another. And as a side effect Frequency Modulation occurs. So I see said the blind man to his deaf wife, that the generation of one type of synthesis results in the other either way.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. "why do you think casio was over looked by so many? they obviously used to innovative, and developed powerful synthesizers and samplers that did what nothing else available did"

    If was overlooked by few when it was released. Many great artists use Casio synths, Vince Clark for one. The reason why they never continued is because Japan already has a tough synth market and Casio was making more money at other ventures. Casio and Yamaha were head to head when they were being produced together. The Yamaha DX Series would not exist without the Casios.

    There are a lot of great synths that were produced this way. Just a chunk of time, and then never to be seen again. I think that is what makes collecting synths so enthralling. You are trying to capture a sound in time.

    `michael

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. Michael, I completely agree

    except.. being Casio being overlooked by few

    so... in my mind... casio was obviously overlooked in the past

    but more importantly

    are they being overlooked today? any of their digital piano stuff worth a damn?

    the keybeds actually felt nice, comparable to my 800 dollar controller than doesn't make shit for sound, and less than half the price if memory servers...

    has casio's brand never been shown in its true light?... i kinda feel that it has.. after reading Mike's and other professional's words... i feel like Casio has kinda been brushed under the rugs... relegated to cheap digital piano emulation... when the minds behind the sounds could probably expressed some serious fucking creative muscle if ever given a chance

    and i readily admit.. my blind ignorance shaped my previous opinion... i didn't even need to hear anything to believe it was crap... it seems really unfortunate for Casio and for musicians

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. No, since the 80's ended, Casio synths have been terrible. They just stopped trying and starting making shit that was cheap and easy to produce. They have a line of very expensive pianos, but I never liked the sound of them. Plus I have no need of a piano, I use a weighted controller and NI Akoustik.

    Old 80's bands loved the Casio synths though, they are very unique and at the time they were very affordable. They were quite popular.

    `michael

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. hollowman

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    Whatever the deal is with Casio I have been making a conscious effort to not use my CZ-1 lately to avoid overkilling it. And now I have gone and found a new brand of crack purchasing this VZ-1. Is there some outreach thing I can calll?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. they don't accept calls.. but i've heard they'll take the synths that torment you so

    for a nominal fee, i can provide you with an address where you can dispose of such troubling material possessions

    yes, i'll take your money and your synthesizers. jesus wills it

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. hollowman

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    Praise be to Jeeeeezus! You have saved me you greedy synth lusting son of a gun. But no, this pipe is my hit. Not your hit. Wait your turn. Savage!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. man, i'd love to share a pipe with you

    come to New Orleans! everything... sans transexual prostitutes... hell, even transexual prostitutes... my treat.. :P

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. hollowman

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    Same here bro. A good buddy of mine from the Mechwarrior universe used to live there and always tried getting me to visit him. Then the floods and crap forced him to Texas. I still regret not going while he was there.
    Trannies aren't bad once you get to know them. When we hit that pipe I'll tell you about my Flatlands Brooklyn story about trannies and how I almost lost my cushy government job explaining the charge on my record from it LOL!

    I would invite you up to North Carolina but what would be the point ;-)

    Hell yeah I'll take a trip. I gotta go to Phoenix to record my singer anyway so a pit stop along the way would be fun!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. its now public record

    you gotta stop

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. hollowman

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    yup time for bed.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. hollowman

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    somehow we went from Casio Synthesizers to transexual prostitutes so I had to add that as a tag!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. the two go hand in hand

    look at the band Duran Duran... all the members were transgender

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. hollowman

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    They truly were girls on film eh? I guess that's why you had to save a prayer for the morning after!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  17. Just woke up. Damn I am hungry like the wolf.

    `michael

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. hollowman

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    Good Morning Michael - Here is your morning inspiration for today....

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    "Reckless and so hungered
    On the razors edge you trail
    Because there's murder by the roadside
    In a sore afraid new world"

    The video is totally unrelated to anything in this thread but it brightened my morning nicely! And I just bought that Mangler FX unit on Ebay! Woot!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. fucking mini sounds humongous

    any idea if the panning delay was a hardware unit? i at first i thought it was a tape delay.. but i wasn't aware that they could do panning stuff like this

    checked youtube...

    was a mangler... and now i see you even said what it was in your post >,<

    wish i knew someone with a ksp8, i'd like to compare it to my fx rack

    Posted 1 year ago #

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