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Side-Line magazine has started its 2008 voting for best label (and best magazine) of 2008 AND is offering reduction codes for several online mailorders.
Take this chance to get your favourite releases at a cheaper price. You can vote right here: http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=37917_0_2_0_C Kind regards, |bernard| - [chief editor] ------------------------------------- Side-Line music magazine Stephane Froidcoeur Leuvenselaan 251 . 3300 Tienen . Belgium info@side-line.com . www.side-line.com tel/fax 0032.16.82.21.82 ------------------------------------- Forum: http://www.side-line.com/forum/index.php ------------------------------------- Dec 08, 08 | 9:56 am
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you need to add "coilhouse" to the magazine list. hands down best magazine out there.
Dec 08, 08 | 10:24 am
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and take off VF, since they are long gone (and owe lots of scene peeps $$$)
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as you will see we added both onlne and printed magazines, hece why VF is still on there.
Dec 08, 08 | 10:35 am
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GO CRUNCHPOD!!!:)
Dec 08, 08 | 10:48 am
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Definitely some odd inclusions AND exclusions of label options in there.
Dec 08, 08 | 10:51 am
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Fabryka?
oh, and Radio Valkyrie? ;) Dec 08, 08 | 10:56 am
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Where's Def Jam?
Dec 08, 08 | 11:04 am
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I smell conspiracies !
Dec 08, 08 | 11:16 am
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VF disappeared? That lasted a long time!
Dec 08, 08 | 11:17 am
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No Vendetta? "Intrigued".
Dec 08, 08 | 11:41 am
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Hive, baby!
Dec 08, 08 | 12:00 pm
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This popularity contest is ridiculous and serves no purpose. I am honored Vendetta didn't make this list. The last thing I would want is to conform to the standards of the people who come up with crap like this. It has about as much credibility as the DAC charts.
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -- Hunter S. Thompson Dec 08, 08 | 12:20 pm
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who came up with this label list ?
I'm obviously going to jump on my own band wagon and ask where the fuck is Noitekk ?! Dec 08, 08 | 12:54 pm
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Where's ARTOFFACT???
Dec 08, 08 | 12:57 pm
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I'm sure the exclusions weren't deliberate...
or were they? duh duh duh Dec 08, 08 | 1:06 pm
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FUCK HIVE.....
it's all about CRUNCH POD & TYMPANIK RECORDS!!! Dec 08, 08 | 2:35 pm
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that's right I said it....
Dec 08, 08 | 2:36 pm
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No Negative Gain either?
I call SHENANIGANS on this "so called" vote. Dec 08, 08 | 2:44 pm
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word to taking off VF
Dec 08, 08 | 6:44 pm
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Btw, thanks for not posting the codes like RSTK did. I didn't know we idiots on this forum.
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Uh, I didn't post any of the codes, I just said how much the discounts are for at the sites. Perhaps you should consider the Derek Zoolander School For Kids Who Can't Read Good.
I didn't know we idiots on this forum. Dec 09, 08 | 5:46 am
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it's monday for me, so f$$k off. :)
Dec 09, 08 | 6:08 am
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No Rock-a-rolla, Plan B or The Wire in the magazine list.
Dec 09, 08 | 6:37 am
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it's a scene list, period.
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Temper temper.
Missing lots of labels Cortex,Biohazzard, Danse Macabre, Rebco, Vendetta, Noitekk and so on. Dec 09, 08 | 7:02 am
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Missing those magazines:
Regen Fabryka Medienkonverter Missing these labels: DSBP Negative Gain Spiralchords Radio Valkyrie Dependent (they're still releasing digitally) Dec 09, 08 | 7:33 am
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and Elektrauma (magazine)
Dec 09, 08 | 9:32 am
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Side-Line amuses me. You do not seem to realize how cluttered and confusing their news page is with so many different focus topics and scattered google ads. Then you treat people like idiots when they cannot figure out the system.
You should have made it a separate webpage and then given people the option to put in their own suggestions. Joke suggestions could be easily deleted and you could tally new suggestions into selection boxes as they came about. also- keep in mind I am not criticizing your use of the ads- I realize they are an important factor to keeping your web system up and running. But some things should be done in a separate portal without all the distractions. `michael Dec 09, 08 | 9:42 am
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that's why a new design is being elaborated to keep the clutter away :). sometimes you don't seem to realise we are constantly working... oooops
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Other magazines:
Alternative Magazine (UK, print) Terrorverlag (www.musik.terrorverlag.de) Uselinks (www.uselinks.de) Dark Spy (print, www.dark-spy.com) Dec 09, 08 | 10:13 am
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@Side-Line- No I absolutely realize that-when I find my post "cannot be posted at this time" :P
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shut up bicth :)
Dec 09, 08 | 10:40 am
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LOL :-)
Dec 09, 08 | 10:43 am
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HAHAHAHAHA :)
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that was an awesome slice of pwnage on behalf of side-line.
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no wtii records? or bitriot?
stromkern, pti, etc get talked about here... those labels are pretty active as far as i can tell... pretty sure guys from the labels post somewhat regularly... i'm kinda surprised they're missing. Dec 09, 08 | 1:11 pm
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wtii records is active you call being in a coma active.
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@funkervogt
pretty sure they just put out the new monstrum sepsis and thought criminals in the last couple months. oh, and don't they put on live scene shows in chicago once a month or something? i'd call a 2 new releases and a new signing active... and i've been to some of the shows... but hey, maybe i'm in a coma too... Dec 09, 08 | 1:37 pm
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@Side-Line- just tryin to be helpful :P
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DOnīt care abt. labels ( I care abt. music more ), but Medienkonverter.de is missing...... which is also my fave. They have a bit too much "pigrock" on the site the last months though.. :(
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Also the label HRW is missing (Hoinh Records Worldwide)... as I am 2nd CEO of this label I must protest and urge people too NOT vote unless the real important labels (like HRW) are added !!!!!!!!!!
Dec 09, 08 | 3:28 pm
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*spitting tea on keyboard, and nearly through nose*
Dec 09, 08 | 3:34 pm
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I would also like to see side-line chronicles, the tabloid by our own dark texas
Dec 09, 08 | 10:27 pm
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we reached the 800 votes casted... keep them coming.
Dec 10, 08 | 9:18 am
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Just a question, maybe I didn't read well enough but how are we supposed to receive the discount ?
Dec 10, 08 | 10:54 am
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you will in the mail that you get as final confirmation of you voting.
Dec 10, 08 | 11:50 am
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Ok thks :-)
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The correct spelling is "Sigsaly Transmissions" ---- you know the one..that released Machines Against Hunger, Autofdafeh and x** this year! Vote for us! :D
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Still missing Alternative Magazine on that list :(
Dec 10, 08 | 5:49 pm
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Still missing Negative Gain (-NGP+) on that list.
Dec 11, 08 | 8:03 am
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Surely Beton Kopf Media wins best/most mechandise!!!
Dec 11, 08 | 8:56 am
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@Side-line: it's monday for me, so f$$k off. :)
So, are you gonna unban my rstk account then? :P Dec 11, 08 | 11:32 am
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1. Click link
2. Check off every magazine and label 3. Click the submit button 4. ???? 5. PROFIT! Note: I have not done this but it seems foolproof. :P Dec 11, 08 | 4:45 pm
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Don't take this the wrong way, but my label did release something this year... just sayin'. :|
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I wish I could believe a survey like this is totally unbiased, but given that it's from the same guy/people directly behind Side Line *and* Alfa Matrix, I just can't help but think the results will end up being skewed. Kind of like how when you go to Iso Tank's website, their supposed Top 10 Best Sellers list ALWAYS has at least 4-5 Dancing Ferret releases in it, no matter how old or dated they might be. Weird coincidence considering both businesses are run by the same guy. Actually, it seems to apply to every label/mailorder who like to pretend that they're totally separate entities. I think the only one that keeps things fairly accurate and doesn't care about stroking it's own ego is Metropolis Mailorder considering how many times their Top 10 list hasn't featured even one Metro release.
But have fun voting. :) Dec 11, 08 | 8:28 pm
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You cynical gits who cares if it may be a bit biased. YOu will get discounts and its fun to see which is the most popular so stfu. Dont be so serious always.
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Also missing Bit Riot Records who released albums from Cyanotic, Torrent Vaccine and Left Spine Down this year!
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@ Dot Com: there is no manipulation of any kind in the votings. As if this is of any interest to us?
Dec 12, 08 | 4:17 am
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oh, and just to be complete: we had to draw a line somewhere when it comes to adding labels. But it is definitely something that we will reconsider for next year. We can't do good for everyone, but I hope that the free reductions codes will please to many.
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And what about mags? I mean, Alternative Magazine is a really well done scene-related mag.
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the same, we will evaluate this once the voting is over and done.
however, to be honest, seeing the results so far I doubt that any change in the candidates would have a large impact. But we will reconsider the approach once all data is there. Dec 12, 08 | 6:04 am
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I agree with COTBT on this.
Let's take it easy, it's a fun initiative, and even if it's not perfect, at least it has the merit of existing and keeping our scene active. Dec 12, 08 | 8:52 am
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No, I agree, it's a cool idea. And, if it gets repeated next year, hopefully some concerns will be addressed. But it's pro-'scene' and pro-music-listener, which is always a good thing.
I understand that a line has to be drawn somewhere, and that little labels such as mine often have to be omitted lest the list get ridiculous. Hence why I said "don't take this the wrong way". Dec 12, 08 | 9:10 am
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we might do a shortlist next year on 40 small labels and get you al vote for he 10 that should get in for sure, just an idea? We can do this later on next year.
Dec 12, 08 | 1:35 pm
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A "primary" as it were? Interesting!
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yes, i think that would be very interesting and helpfull. We first do acall for candidates and then do the voting. Ok, I'm sold, will do it next year, promised ! Will also look for partners to give a nice extra in return to all voters.
Dec 12, 08 | 2:36 pm
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will the results show ALL of the votes?? or is it just the top 5 or something like that??
would be nice to see the entire thing... Dec 12, 08 | 3:55 pm
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top 20
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how about a 'best retailer' catagory for next year, get all the distro's and online stores to fight it out :D
also the winer should get a little golden statue of ronan haris. Dec 13, 08 | 11:22 am
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"...and the Side - Line award goes to..." :-)
Dec 13, 08 | 11:36 am
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Ok forget my rebate, give me the golden statue of Ronan Harris instead.
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It's an interesting idea in terms of promotion for your magazine but it also seems to be a bit of a high school popularity contest that the majority of independent artists and labels will frown upon.
Dec 14, 08 | 8:11 pm
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I also second dasbunker in adding Coilhouse. By far the best magazine in the past couple of years.
Dec 14, 08 | 8:16 pm
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Shutup Haywire.
Dec 14, 08 | 10:11 pm
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NO U. Why aren't you COBT anymore? :(
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but it also seems to be a bit of a high school popularity contest that the majority of independent artists and labels will frown upon.
yah! aint it great! i dont think i have yet encountered a label that frouns uppon a popularity contest. Dec 15, 08 | 2:15 am
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Considering that independent artists and labels greatly outnumber the established ones I think this sort of thing has the potential to alienate newcomers from musicians to labels to potential fans. Yet if it helps promote the magazine by preying on signed artists and mindless types who only listen to what the established labels tell them to... I guess it's a good move. I just see it a lot like Nike and Tommy Hilfiger to be honest.
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oh shut up already
you're just butthurt because no one mentioned that attempt at a feminist label Dec 15, 08 | 3:33 am
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LOLHUH?
I wouldn't expect machineKUNT to be mentioned considering the lack of releases. That's just silly. I was stating objectively that I thought this sort of thing would alienate independents and newcomers. If you choose to read more into it than that it's not my problem. Dec 15, 08 | 3:36 am
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And considering that the machineKUNT compilation had releases from artists on Alfa-Matrix, COP International, etc. I obviously like a lot of the artists on these labels to begin with. I simply don't think the idea of a popularity contest related to name brands is a wise move to make if the idea is to introduce new people to this magazine.
Not sure how this is complaining or being "butthurt." (isn't internet slang dynamic these days?) It's what I would have said face to face to Side-Line as my opinion on the manner. Though if this ends up being a good idea and bringing more people in as opposed to alienating them I will happily consider myself wrong. Dec 15, 08 | 3:43 am
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rabble rabble rabble
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commerce and underground just dont mingle, end of line
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Oh yeah.. I forgot how "anti-establishment" and rebellious this scene is.. LOL....
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Underground is mostly taken over by mainstream and commercialized... see Punk, Goth, Techno.....
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punk, goth and techno were all counter-cultural social moovments, industrial was (from what i have read at leasrt) an arts moovment based on punk, it may be worth hanging about to see if a counter revolution can remove the paracitic blight of 'fashon' from an otherwise sound discource covering everything from dada to the ritualisation of the violation of our cultural taboos.
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"Oh yeah.. I forgot how "anti-establishment" and rebellious this scene is"
Did i use those words anti-establishment and rebellious? No, i believe i didnt, and does this make your statement void ? Yes, i believe it does. Underground doesnt imply those things "Underground is mostly taken over by mainstream and commercialized" Did a shitload of industrial bands suddenly get signed to commercial labels? nope Did the industrial sound get copied in popular music, like rap has? nope I just meant to say that industrial remains small, and that you can forget about making loads of money 99% of the time people should just come to terms with that instead of having illusions of grandeur Dec 16, 08 | 9:09 am
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zines???????are there any left....???? the only one I get is Sonic Seducer which seems to be the best, although I am not good at reading German..
are we really gonna count webzines??? there are millions of em...who has time to check em out anymore...no one I know of... looks like VF forgot to pay a lot of us back for Ads....oh well..no surprise there. we don't mind not being included at DSBP RECORDS...we remain very underground, "true underground" that is...doing our own thing, and self operated and not part of the corporate elite who give the record labels a bad name imho... polls are boring at this point...who carez? Dec 16, 08 | 3:27 pm
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roadkill: "I just meant to say that industrial remains small, and that you can forget about making loads of money 99% of the time"
True probably if you count the "real" indus or ebm stuff... but when I lastly went to a so called "goth/industrial" party it reminded me more of the loveparade... Dec 16, 08 | 6:22 pm
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@ Tommy : DSBP is included since day one...
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no, no no!!! do not vote for us please!!!!;-)
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Too late, and you are getting extra votes every day, damn !
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LOL go DSBP!
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Labels that were not nominated this time should check their mail NOW or in the next minutes... as should those that have been selected. We added a nice extra incentive :)
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Actually itīs Progress Productions .... not that it matters ... but well it is ;)
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best label ; prophecy dominion
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never heard of em.???
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No email here... :(
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@ out out : here's what we have sent:
Side-Line offers FREE bannerspace - check here how to get it Dear label, As we informed, Side-Line magazine has started its 2008 voting for best label (and best magazine) of 2008. We are not only offering FREE reduction codes for several online mailorders shops (Isotank, Music Non Stop and Infrarot) for everyone voting BUT we also offer FREE bannerspace to the first best scoring 4 labels. The bannerspace has a value of 200 EURO per banner and equals 1 full month display on Side-Line, so we are pretty sure lots of you will be interested. If your label is not among the ones that have been nominated, no worries. Send me a mail at info@side-line.com if you want to be included next year. From all the contacts I will get, 1 will be selected to get FREE bannerspace as well this time. People can vote right here: http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=37917_0_2_0_C We hope you enjoy this extra ! Kind regards, |bernard| - [chief editor] Dec 22, 08 | 4:46 am
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The results of the voting:
http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=38567_0_2_0_C Jan 02, 09 | 1:25 pm
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did musicnonstop ever return their stolen merchandise to the artists/labels?
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coool deal..we didn't make the top 20!!
now thats true underground man!!!:-))))))) I said it! thanks for listening and not voting for us.. we don't do this for high school popularity contests... we release music we like and know is better than it gets credit for, but whatever...I like lots of the labels on that list and some I don't care for... so what will labels do in the future as the CD is close to buried now? how do we get bands to sign and say ..."right on dudes...we are gonna release your shit for "free downloads" you wanna sign with us? we are the real deal!!"... thats the future for all labels.,..I hate to say..but its true....oh well..at least no more overhead or losing money or filling our houses with CD's instead of chairs, and nice stuff...like a bed...lolzzzz Jan 03, 09 | 4:17 am
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oh god...
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if your not in the game you have no clue...and No,I am not your God!!!!
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Tommy,
DSBP landed on spot 39 with 210 votes. You were ahead of such labels as: PROGRESS BETONKOPF MEDIA M-TRONIC PRUSSIA BRUME DAFT DIVINE COMEDY SOME BIZARRE HALL OF SERMON KLANGDYNAMIK REPO RECORDS DECADANCE RUSTBLADE ... With 180 votes more you would have made it to the top 20. Jan 03, 09 | 6:49 am
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we know its all about the Franklins man..;-)..and no worries...we know we don't have money,but definately have great releases,and our fans/supporters let us know..and the the rest pirate and file share...
I never asked anyone to vote for us anyway,cause for me these polls aren't really important... i mean is there a trophy you guys made for AM or something? I would love to see it...or is it just bragging rights "in teh scene"? but, yeah, its surprising to see some labels up there that don't have many good releases out though, but all it takes is telling all your friends to vote over and over, and it just wasn't something I worried about. its nice that some did,as I didn't expect any to...back to work here... Jan 03, 09 | 7:03 am
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"did musicnonstop ever return their stolen merchandise to the artists/labels?"
----LOLZZZZZZ yeah right!!! that will be the day....thousands I have lost and so have the bands from busted deals like that and more...thats all that the music scene is about...losing money...heheheh Jan 03, 09 | 7:05 am
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so why does sideline keep promoting them? he seems happy to plug them and take his affiliate money.
this is me calling him out to do whats right and support his scene, by not plugging them until they work to resolve the issue. basically the entire userbase of this site is against them or was screwed royally by them, so its a bit screwed up that he is on their side. Jan 03, 09 | 11:58 am
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I concur wholeheartedly..we are personally sick of getting screwed over and want all our DSBP CD's back or payment....its bad enough the Ramen is running out here.....shitt...gonna try some of my cats food and see how that is...lol
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guess tommyt is the only one with balls :D
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