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I'm so out of touch with club music now!


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Denaes

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I think I'm totally out of touch with the club scene now, music wise.

My friend and I went to Das Bunker for Icon of Coil last night and from when we got there until midnite the music seemed very monotonous. I mean good beats, often spinkled with samples... but no singing. That was until the two VNV songs came on (was Further a cover or weird remix?) and a covenant song.

It comes back to my Techno/Trance view. Good beats, good music, can't wrap my head around the lack of lyrics. Like you could take any half decent vocalist and lay down words on these tracks and I'd appreciate it 10x more. I just couldn't get into dancing to music without vox.

After the show it was pretty much the same. Voxless music... hehe expect for that fucked up remix of an apoptygma song off the last album that sounded like Groth was inhaling helium!

I just don't get it. nothing but music (and it's good clubby music) with "this shit will fuck you up" every 30 seconds. I knew this style of scene music existed, but I figured it was like a track here or there sprinkled in between songs.

Maybe last night wasn't representitive of normal nights there or the scene in general... But it's funny to think that I'm now that old guy who doesn't get it :)


Oct 06, 07 | 9:01 pm
DJ TeKslave

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They call it TBM, it's supposed to be fresh but IMO very few bands succeed at keeping thing sentertaining in that genre.

Oct 06, 07 | 10:25 pm
MOTHERFUCKING Dărk †exăs

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Holy shit i totally feel ya man! I could predict and knew every song that was being played at the goth clubs i used to frequent. Now i go and i see lil teenie boppers wet their pants whenever they play "name current popular song being played" and i'm just like egh...
... i used to hate those gother than thou's who knew everything about everything and now i feel like i'm that guy.

Stupid old age and repitive lifestyle bringing me down.
:(

Oct 06, 07 | 11:23 pm
DJ TeKslave

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Nah don`t worry... I have the solution. Go to crossover raves, that how I solved the boredom.

Oct 07, 07 | 12:51 am
Sigsaly Transmissions

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oct 07, 07 | 12:58 am
MOTHERFUCKING Dărk †exăs

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been there done that...i was young and needed the money!

Oct 07, 07 | 1:06 am
rstk

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That doesn't sound representative of the club scene in general. Maybe that Das Bunker DJ is just lame? :)

There are a handful of bands that do the no lyrics thing, but they aren't dominating playlists anywhere else I've heard of. You might hear 2 over the course of an entire night...

Oct 07, 07 | 1:08 am
DJ TeKslave

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No really crossover raves are cool.

By crossover I mean powernoise/breakcore/hardcore/psytrance... if that exists in your area it`s the place to have fun these days.

Oct 07, 07 | 1:25 am
DJ TeKslave

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Oh and yeah Modulate and Alter Der Ruine are cool, but the clones can be annoying and boring.

Oct 07, 07 | 1:26 am
walkingwounded

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yeah, i'm partial to clubby songs with vocals. seems more suited for dance floors, or maybe it's just my preference. i save the instrumental stuff for home...gridlock, download, loads of noise...i love it, but i don't want to dance to it.

repetitive [often sample-heavy] industrial/electronic songs have done well in clubs for quite a while now. it's not a recent development.

Oct 07, 07 | 4:18 pm
Chris C'tan

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reminds me of a modern Newbeat personally.

Oct 07, 07 | 4:30 pm
DJ TeKslave

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I think it's just proof that there can be too much of a good thing.

Oct 07, 07 | 4:38 pm
DrkSynthGrl

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I can't handle music without lyrics. Just don't like it.

Oct 07, 07 | 6:44 pm
The Black Oil

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It's kind of funny to read some of these comments. I've talked to many a fan of various electronic genres who didn't like industrial/EBM for the exact OPPOSITE reason...they didn't like vocals in the music at all. I wonder if it's a cultural context thing within subgenre scenes?

Anyway, vocals, no vocals, I like dancing to either one as long as the beats and sounds are interesting. I do think a lot of these "TBM" acts get pretty repetitive quickly, though.

Oct 07, 07 | 6:55 pm
MOTHERFUCKING Dărk †exăs

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I kept hearing about Soman and Reaper...so i borrowed some of their cd's...i liked the music but kept waiting for the lyrics.

Place to have fun for me these days is wal-mart at 3 in the morning.
:/

Oct 07, 07 | 8:43 pm
DJ TeKslave

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True that everybody liked the Reaper song weltfremd because of the Suicide Commando lyrics.

The latest Soman was disappointing if you ask me. It sounded very 2004 except less potent.

Oct 07, 07 | 8:58 pm
Chris C'tan

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I prefer my "dance" music to be preset-free and vocal-less...each to their own though.

Oct 07, 07 | 9:43 pm
SUMEZ~1.EXE

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This scene has three options.

1. Hellektro vocals
2. Cheesy futurepop vocals
3. No vocals

And recently I really prefer the third option over the first two, but it really depends on the mood. Of course there's the shouting nitzer ebb'sque EBM vocal as well, but there's not really any good new music doing that well these days (actually Combichrist would be the best suggestion)

Still I'm surprised that you didn't hear any tracks with vocals. They gotta at least have done some Hocico, Retrosic, Grendel, Tactical Sekt, Suicide Commando, etc?

Oct 08, 07 | 3:55 am
preempt01

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There aren't any clubs where are live but when I do get to one I can still count on hearing Forgotten Tears, VNV remix of Destilat, Epicentre and This shit will fuck you up. Its reassuring in a way....

Oct 08, 07 | 4:11 am
DJ TeKslave

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In Montreal the pieces that are still being played are IOC : Access And Amplify, Hocico : Untold Blasphemies, Covenant : Like Tears In Rain, Combichrist : Blut Royale.

Oct 08, 07 | 11:25 am
chris coreline - XP8 goodbye!

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id love to have lyrics in my songs but i cant sing or write, so i dont.

Oct 08, 07 | 11:36 am
XP8_Mrk

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Chris.. you always make perfect sense.
;D

Oct 08, 07 | 11:47 am
Stevil

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I went to Das Bunker

it's been a while since i went but Bunker usually has 2 or 3 rooms going on.
powernoise, the old skool & the more popular stuff. also it varies based on who the DJ of the week is. did you wander thru the rooms?

Oct 08, 07 | 2:38 pm
scarchemik

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I stopped buying music without singing after the 3rd Intermix album. yeah, that was a long time ago. If I wanted instrumentals, I'd listen to the Weather Channel.

@Sumez - There is a 4th option. Good vocals. IMO, Melotron, And One, Covenant all sing well. That is why I buy their stuff. And they seem to hang well with the 'tough' crowds.

Oct 09, 07 | 11:05 am
maschinetheist

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Crossover raves are awesome, you get the best of all of the worlds. I personally wouldnt' mind some psy-trance and breakbeat along with industrial.

Oct 09, 07 | 11:16 am



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