I would imagine that labels would like to broaden their fan base. So having a diverse label may help sell more CDs. By sticking to one style ala Noitekk, if love that sound you will buy most releases, but if you don't you will avoid the label.

True dat:)Diversifying into # elektro genres is a shrewd business strategy. We've decided to launch a sub-label, EAR under Vendetta Music dedicated to old school EBM & authentic dark elektro.Dave wants to sign modern electro-industrial bands to Deathkon Media/Vendetta Music.

I think locking yourself to one subject is a definitive "no no" in most situations, including running a record label..... The more open-minded you are, the more people you will attract....

The more open-minded you are, the more people you will attract....

That's debatable.You must maintain integrity:)

Should restaurants specialize in one style of food (a la Indian, italian etc)?

Oops sorry, wrong forum! :|

very funny (&stupid) SDXY:)

& yes most restaurants ARE specialized in one style of food.

I only eat in old school, authentic 100 % "chicago-style" free pizza joints! If you can't fold it in two and jump in the subway and have it for breakfast its not for me!

Thats how i like my ladies too !

bloo in the loo

you like ém to bloosquirt:)

& your website is very old school. It's magnificently emptly:)

empty*.

like your mind dear electrofreak :)

www.bloosqr.com is your website my dear airheaded physicist:) Keep up the good work & don't forget to interrview the rising futurepoppers Burnt Potato.

They're in your league ya know:)

You may, of course, trust that I give your suggestions all the time that they deserve! And thanks again for all the free plugs, though i am somewhat curious as to its relevance to this thread! Care to enlighten?

-bloo

Do what you will with your labels, but I think the focus should be on artists releases. I'm getting really tired of dance albums from start to finish. I need variation from song to song or I start to find the album boring. Some newer releases which I adore of late that show alot of progression and variation are; Spetsnaz - Totalitar (exceeds my expectations, and pushes the boundries and that old school sound and revitalizes it), Front Line Assembly - Artificial Soldier (their most solid release possibly ever, perfect balance of old and new), Headscan - Pattern Recognition (THE middle ground between techno and dark electro), Dioxyde - Social Phobia (new meets old, hellektro meets old school KLINIK/Suicide Commando). Das Ich - Cabaret ( a cd completely different than anything), In strict Confidence - Exile Paradise (very subtle, dark, and diliberate. Alot of thought was put into this release and the tracks cover the stylistc change from "Cryogenix to Holy"), Fractured - Only Human Remains (quality Canadian electro with tons of variety, old school meets new). These are some new"er" releases that really stand out in my mind and I think they really break the mold. Labels can have a cohesive sound but the artists need to put those unexpected changes in their songs that makes you think "wow, I didn't see that coming" or "this tracks tempo is completely different from the last" or "hey, here's some clean vocals to contrast those rough vocals". That's the shit that makes an exciting release. More electro artists should do that. I think they also need to take more than 8 to 12 months to release a new album. Constantly pumping out material makes for a week product. That's my rant.

Bloosqr

The thread's topic is: the labels diversifying strategy (it's not about your free pizzas & bloosquirting WOMEN LOL)..if you don't like this topic just skip over my thread capish?

Nah i dont think so.. i am just continuing your and SDXYs tangent on restaurants.. which you followed up on.. so i think i'll stay!

I know so:) Let's steer this thread back on topic thanks.

Whats your opinion on the matter then. It sounds like by having a "sub-label" you like the idea of having the labels specialized.. or do you consider a sub-label part of the label? I think most people consider the label the "name" on the cd thing so if the name isn't the same its a different label aka Mantra versus Beggars or even Nonesuch versus Warner ..

Once "modern" EBM bands get signed to vendetta does that mean you are only 80% hellektro free? Will you keep us up to date on any changes of your status?

sincerely,
-bloo

EAR & Deathkon Media are sub-labels of Vendetta Music . Dave wants to diversify into different elektro genres and i don't blame him one bit cuz we want to attract a bigger audience.It's definitely a shrewd marketing strategy.

Nope EAR is dedicated to old school EBM & authentic dark elektro. I won't supervise Deathkon Media's upcoming releases.

So we can all be assured that your pithy ELECTRO"BANANA"MUSIK preset putdowns (and so forth) that have been entertaining side-line for years will continue then?

You can be assured that shrewd "marketing" strategy will come off quite well to your audience, because as we all know, audiences love being "marketed" to.

well done!

bloo square

Bloosqr

Is Modern electro-industrial limited to Terrorbanana EBM?How do you classify Haujobb,Cobalt 60 & Feindflug?You're either ignorant or stupid (or both).

Keep it coming Bloosqr ...you're making a fool out of yourself:) I can assure you that Deathkon Media WON'T sign a hellektro band.

Ooo electrofreak is getting a bit angry :)

so does that mean you will do your best to keep what you call terror banana EBM off of vendetta? I thought you said you weren't supervising that.. which means it could be anything modern.. you see my friend "modern electro industrial" does include bands like Haujobb and it ALSO includes what you call "terror banana EBM". It is not limited to that (as you point out) but it is not limited to *EXCLUDE* that, my logicfree friend.

modernblooserif

Ahhh I see, so even Deathkon is not going to include bands you consider hellektro or EBM! A very interesting definition of modern!

-all the best,
-bloo

My dear bloosqr

You're just arguing for the sake of arguing.Why don't you do something useful for your beloved futurepop/terrorbanana scene (e.g conduct interviews with your heroes (who would never give you the time of day) & upcoming futurepop stars like Burnt Potato,release a comp featuring an allstar lineup (BRING IT ON Mr physicist), or just shut the fuck up & admit that your magnificently empty & pathetic website www.bloosqr.com &your lame radioshow is the best you can do)?I'm through with you buddy.

Back on topic

Dave_M

Right on!Progression & variation is the name of the game:)

Bloosqr

Scroll up & have you eyes checked (no hellektro on deathkon media).You're spending too much time on SL forum:)I thought physicists had better things to do:)

No dude, i'm not going to "shut the fuck up" because of your odd non-sequitors, and I am not arguing for arguments sake either. Perhaps you aren't getting the "point" and as its evidentally not clear to you even now, i'll leave it at that. I will say its always entertaining having these chats w/ you!

Yeah you have to widen your horizon. Modern electro-industrial isn't ltd to Hellektro & Terror EBM. Check out K-bereit .

@efreak : w/ regards to your last scroll up post.. remember there are issues w/ "posting" your post saying there would be no hellektro on deathkon showed up as I was writing the following post, so i did not see it until after i posted that message. That is why i said "ahh i see, no hellektro on Deathkon" right afterwards. That happens quite often on side-line unfortunately.

I don't need a lecture from someone who has ZERO track record.Take a hike Bloosqr &have yourself a great afternoon.Thank you

EFREAK! HELLO?

LAST TIME!!

I did not say it is limited to "HELLEKTRO TERROR EBM" I said IT was NOT LIMITED TO EXCLUDE "HELLEKTRO TERROR EBM"

YOU are SAYING it EXCLUDES HELLEKTRO TERROR EBM by way of this DISCUSSION!

You do see the difference right? Its called logic man, look it up.

Please drop me a line when you interview Burnt Potato. I'm sure you can pull that off:)

Always w/ that witty banter you are!

btw i think i'll stick around thanks!

Please do but i won't reply to your posts bloosqirter troll:)Let's bring this thread is back on topic thanks.

thread back on topic*

Dave_M

What do you think of Last Influence of Brain & Brain Leisure?

Yer the boss hoss!

I like labels to have a somewhat unified sound across their various bands. I've discovered a few bands I really like because even though I'd never heard them, I saw the familiar label and trusted it enough to buy it. I'll buy most albums I see with the Wax Trax! logo, but I've found a few (later) bands signed to them that I don't like.

Sames goes for Zoth Ommog, Antler Subway & KK (late 80's-early 90's). Labels should maintain integrity.

A diversifying strategy is good as long as you promote a clearly-defined sound (e.g old school EBM & authentic dark elektro).Another option would be to launch a sub-label.

"A diversifying strategy is good as long as you promote a clearly-defined sound (e.g old school EBM & authentic dark elektro)"

How do you balance "clearly-defined" and "diversifying"?

Old school EBM & authentic dark elektro go hand in hand.Same goes for crossover (k-bereit,cobalt 60) & electro-industrial (Feindflug)

http://www.side-line.com/forum/threads.php?id=5118_0_20_180_C

That's how i balance "clearly-defined & diversified"

The one who is making the least understandalbe posts here is definately efreak... contradictions contradictions..

So to pick the obvious example then.. what is your opinion of the "metropolis" umbrella.. they carry Haujobb, Ken (Indie), Goth, Synthpop, "futurepop" vnv nation, "hellektro?" suicide commando .. too diverse? shrewd marketing?

How so Dr. A Funz?

Diversified label e.g Out of Line:They released futurepop,hellektro/Terror EBM,Old school EBM & authentic dark elektro cd's (Culture Kultur,Agonoize,Spetsnaz &proceed & KIFOTH).

Clearly-defined sound: Wax Trax, Antler Subway, KK.

Metropolis' roster is VERY diversified.

&yes i was referring to the late 80's-early 90's sound of KK,Wax Trax & Antler subway.

wax traxx was not clearly defined... it had a little bit of everything...listening to black box you can see that

bloosqr

You're stating the obvious:Metropolis' HUGE roster speaks for itself & they've adopted a shrewd marketing strategy. Scroll up & READ "discuss the pros & cons of a diversifying strategy"

Not sure I agree about KK Records having a clearly defined sound. I have Controlled Bleeding (classical period), Smersh, Dominion, PWOG, Scorn and Sielwolf records released on KK. They also had HNAS, The Hafler Trio and DDAA on their roster. Certainly they had a core sound, but they also covered a lot of other bases.

Krish You

I said late 80's/early 90's.Get your facts straight b4 you post messages. Check out Wax Trax late 80's roster (Borghesia,F242,A;grumh,early KMFDM,Click Click,Pankow) .

EFreak writes


"You're stating the obvious:Metropolis' HUGE roster speaks for itself & they've adopted a shrewd marketing strategy. Scroll up & READ "discuss the pros & cons of a diversifying strategy" "

That is *not* what I am getting at! You *just* wrote :


"A diversifying strategy is good as long as you promote a clearly-defined sound (e.g old school EBM & authentic dark elektro)"


I want to know if you think metropolis is "good" as per your definition. They have not gone the sub-label route.

reaedarius

Yep but they had a core sound (early Numb, Vomito Negro,Force Dimension etc).

This isn't about good or bad bloosqr. I wrote "discuss the pros & cons of a diversifying strategy".

Pros: attract a bigger audience & make $$$$$.
Cons:diluted identity

That's just my opinion.You don't have to agree with me (that's why i wrote DISCUSS the pros &cons).

this thread lost me by now... bye! ;-)

@EFreak : I am not using some ephemeral definition of the word "good". I am using "good" in the *exact* same way you used the word in the quote of yours i just reposted. I'll repost it again

Electrofreak writes :


"A diversifying strategy is good as long as you promote a clearly-defined sound (e.g old school EBM & authentic dark elektro)"



"diversifying" and "clearly-defined" seem to contradict each other, at least naively

Let me rephrase : by example does "metropolis" have a "diverse" yet "clearly-defined" sound?

"diversifying" and "clearly-defined" seem to contradict each other, at least naively"

that was what i was referring to with my little sarcastic post.. thanks for explaining me! :-)

"Let me rephrase : by example does "metropolis" have a "diverse" yet "clearly-defined" sound?"

Not really!

Dr. A Funz

Goodbye:) You obviously have nothing enlightening to say...

bloosqr

Life Is Painful Records aren't doing well cuz their roster is restricted to old school EBM (i LOVE their releases though). Noitekk cd's on the other hand, (dedicated to Terror EBM) are selling reasonably well. That's why there's no clear-cut answer to your question (is diversifying good or bad).

A-Funz

Your comprehension skills are very limited:( Metropolis roster is VERY diversified & NO they DON'T have a clearly-defined sound.Capish?

that was also what i meant kiddo!

"Let me rephrase : by example does "metropolis" have a "diverse" yet "clearly-defined" sound??Scroll up dude

Not really!DUH

You need to upgrade your reading comprehension skills.

Dr.Kiddo,

You're plain stupid.Thank you

@Efreak! my banter w/ you as always is highly entertaining but alas (even for me) has grown tiresome! I will do my homework, upgrade my "reading comprehension skills" and I look forward to more witty repartee w/ you in the near future! Best of luck w/ your "diverse" and "yet clearly" defined forum posts, label, and ,well, weltanschung!

-bloo of the Square

You're welcome my airheaded physicist. Plerase update you magnbficently empty website & don't forget to invite your bloosquirting WOMEN to free pizza.

"You're welcome my airheaded physicist. Plerase update you magnbficently empty website & don't forget to invite your bloosquirting WOMEN to free pizza."

Guffaw, Guffaw!

Well done!

-bloo

efreak, i this post you arent the most wise of men atm.. calling ppl stupid because they dont conform to your standards!

and, in various other posts you show a mentality that insinuates a very insecure person.

btw: what label is it again you are running??

I wonder if his self-confidence would be boosted w/ that harem of bloo squirting women that efreak has blessed upon me! Its worked for me :)

-bloo"OH YEA"square

HAHAHAHAHA you made my day, a good joke before going to bed! thx man!

what standards Dr.Funz

Scroll up& read your posts. I never said that Metropolis has a well-defined sound (i wrote VERY diversified) Your sarcasm is so lame & you're desperately trying to sound funny. It isn't working dude so take a hike &release a top notch cd before you criticize other releases (i look forward to your CRISP production).

bloosqr

I know that you're a very miserable human being & i'm glad i could help:)

"I know that you're a very miserable human being"

I am clearly defined, 100% authentic old-school miserable!

-bloo*snif*sqr

p.s. yet puzzlingly, I am diversified *wink*

Bloosqr

Maybe you should conduct an interview with A +Z. He has no label (poor thing) & he desperately needs more attention. You know i've you best interests at heart:)

Best regards,

Electrofreak

"Love" and "Warum" weren't "top-notch" releases? Both were excellent and both got quite a lot of good press as well.

But to get back on topic. I think 'sub-labels' are dumb and just cause more confusion. I like diverse labels the most.

Bloosqr

You try soo hard to ruin my threads (free old school pizza & your bloosquirting WOMEN LOL) , but it's obviously not working. I look forward to your enlightening input.

Thanks,

Electrofreak

@Telephasic

Thanks for stirring the the thread back on topic:)

@ efreak
not familiar with Brain Leisure but I do own Last Influence of Brain and I think it's a strong first release but I'm hoping for a bit more on their new releases. I think the cream of the crop for Czech bands is "Disharmony". I think they are the pinacle of slow, atmospheric, dark electro. I know they have borrowed alot from MOrtal Constraint but I think that Disharmony is much better.

Dave_M

Disharmony did an amazing remix for Grandchaos. Check out "In Sedens"DCD.

http://www.side-line.com/forum/threads.php?id=15288_0_20_0_C

Telephasic

I disagree A +P releases are far from brilliant but I look forward to his new album & CRISP PRODUCTION. As the old saying goes, don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk.BRING IT ON Dr. A Funz (you've to find a label first LOL).

Dave_M

Last Influence of Brain "Inner Wars" (featuring a kick ass Brain Leisure remix) is coming out in late september on EAR/Vendetta Music.

http://label.vendetta-music.com/

PS;Dr.Funz pls don't send your demo.I'm not interested at all.Thank you

Personally, I think both kinds of labels have their place. Diverse labels are good because you might find something you wouldnt normally find on the ones specialised, where as specialised ones are good for getting what you like if thats your kind of style.

a good diverse label = Mike patton's Ipecac Recordings

havent found any specialised labels for what I like though unfortuantly, would be nice to have one or two, but all the different sounds I like seem to be more rarer ones unfortuantly (e.g. Dalek/Will Haven/Decree/Meshuggah).

ok, back to hiding again.

- Chris

Chris

Complex multi-layered authentic dark elektro is right up your alley right?

If its a Decree clone, yeah. Which doesnt exist. Tbh, im tired of most ends of the spectrums of these genres, not that theres good stuff out there cos there definitly is, but none of it suits me and thats cool..each to their own I say. I guess im just realising this scene in all its forms isnt for me really (hence, back to the technical metalcore). good look with ya sub-label btw :)

- Chris

Thank you Chris,i appreciate it:)I'm just sick & tired of naysayers like Dr.Funz (who hasn't released anything since 2000 + he wants to give TommyT a lecture on production. Tommy should tell Asseptic Room that Dr. Genius Virtuso Frunz called ém ASSeptic) & the infamous Bloosqr radioDJ &webmaster of the magnificently empty www.bloodsq(ui)r(t).com

electrofreak did spake


Tommy should tell Asseptic Room that Dr. Genius Virtuso Frunz called ém ASSeptic) & the infamous Bloosqr radioDJ &webmaster of the magnificently empty www.bloodsq(ui)r(t).com


care to translate this into english? What does this even mean? The last part

& the infamous Bloosqr radioDJ &webmaster of the magnificently empty " target="_blank">www.bloodsq(ui)r(t).com"[/i]

is a fragment.

Let me remind you *again* my idiot savant friend (minus the savant bit), though your obsession w/ my website is quite endearing, most people don't access the website directly, its a hosting site for itunes clients.

reposted because of efreaks fake URL tags.

electrofreak did spake


"Tommy should tell Asseptic Room that Dr. Genius Virtuso Frunz called ém ASSeptic) & the infamous Bloosqr radioDJ &webmaster of the magnificently empty www.bloodsq(ui)r(t).com"


care to translate this into english? What does this even mean? The last part


" & the infamous Bloosqr radioDJ &webmaster of the magnificently empty www.bloosqrt.com"



is a fragment.

Let me remind you *again* my idiot savant friend (minus the savant bit), though your obsession w/ my website is quite endearing, most people don't access the website directly, its a hosting site for itunes clients.

Sorry can't do my airheaded physicist:) www.bloosquirt.com Keep posting lame messages (about free old school pizzas & your bloosquirting WOMEN) & i'll give you a taste of your own medicine. Got that Moron Avi?

Can't do what exactly? Write in complete sentences?

ooo electrofreak called me a moron! The irony is electrolicious!

Do you wanna make your empty website more meaningful?I strongly advise you to interview the long-forgotten A +P.

I'm through with you moron Avi.Have yourself a great evening :)

Thank you for spamming my thread with your nonsense (free old school pizza &your bloosquirting ladies).I'll definitely return the favor:)

back on topic

Oooo he said it again : "moron avi". In a move, sure to astound, shock and dismay, when electrofreak goes 100% authentic old-school little did the world know he meant to an era that hearkened back to staid but true "your momma" jokes. Yes its 100 % authentic middle-school banter in the land of electrofreak!

I haven't a comeback to you sir! You kill me w/ your humor!

holy christ people and by people I mean efreak...seriousily, calm down...no need to get your panties in a bunch...its all in good fun...you say something stupid (often) and well people are going to jump all over you...you make it too easy...theres a bullseye on your back...and they will keep hitting their target over and over...no one cares if someone spells something wrong...last time I checked we weren't in English class. (is there going to be a test afterwards?)...A + F was making a critique of a CD that was HIS opinion of what he thought of it and hes got tons of mp3s on his site which you can take a critique of which I am sure you will bash anyways because then it would prove he was right....and we cannot have that

Your jokes are soo lame &you're a miserable excuse for a human being.Goodbye Mr.Moron Airheaded Physicist Avi:)

@efreak:

Well if you are going to be that way about it, i'm not going to share my harem of beautiful bloo squirting ladies w/ you! You are an angry, angry boy and you shant have any dinner as long as you keep pouting like that.

Krush you

Original post

Should indy labels stick to one genre of elektro a la Noitekk (Hellektro) & Life Is Painful Records (old school EBM)?DISCUSS the pros and cons of a diversifying strategy.

Is that stupid? I don't think so(look WHO's talking).You don't like my threads? That's FINE just skip over ém.Bloosqr just wanted to start shit with me. "Free old school pizza &bloosquirting ladies" (man you're so lame &pathetic). Don't expect me to turn a blind eye on your provoking posts.Got that?

Diversifying is a good thing...
DSBP Records has been doing this for 10 years and it seems we get more flak for it than we do support..
we have released everything from coldwave/metal industrial, to Hellektro, EBM, old school electro-industrial, synthpop, industrial rhythmic noise...

I think its a cool subject,...diverse is nice cause you can reach out to other sub-genres and befriend new listeners as well..this is what we been doing and more of our focus as well as expanding worldwide till everyone knows they can buy music here at DSBP.cx no matter where the fuck they are..and always get a reliable and friendly service..
http://www.dsbp.cx

now thats diverse...

electrofreak
you are doing some good things with your label and I love the bands you have signed and working with and you already released the Grand Chaos...most people who will argue with you don't know what they have never tried....so don't let them get you down...the more you do in this scene the more the naysayers pick on you..I should know..and you know what..I get the last laugh as I am doing what I want with my life and most of them are just corporate slaves pissed of they can't be more like they want..

(that was not meant for anyone specific, you know who you are...)

Thanks Tommy.I've gotten lots of positive feedback on Ïn Sedens"& I'll let the forthcoming releases speak for themselves.

For a label the size of Metropolis, for example, I think it's in their best interest to have some diversity. But when it's a small label, I think they should stick to a certain "core sound" as it were, whether it be Electro/EBM, Hard Industrial, Noise, etc., but obviously ensure the bands they sign don't sound exactly like one another.

That's what I liked about labels like Pendragon, Inception and for the most part Gashed. I knew to expect quality dance floor driven EBM out of them (with a couple of minor exceptions) but also that each band would be unique compared to the next.

But when small labels try to mix it up too much (ie: Artoffact, 21st Circuitry, COP Int'l, etc.), all they did was lose me. Too many hits vs misses with too small of rosters.

efreak...hes making a joke...if i remember correctly you are the adult? 39 years old if memory serves me correctly...stop being so sensitive...just move on you don't have to answer him...but you do hence the nonsense of the thread and speaking of stupid... the whole terrorbanana is beyond the dumbest and(childish)term ever...(it was funny the first time but after over a year of it its tired and needs to be put to rest)...the old school pizza again was A JOKE because YOU ALWAYS talk about the old-school and AUTHENTIC DARK ELECTRO...EVERYONE gets efreak does not like hellelectro we have heard it over and over...time to move on...

but yeah on topic...if you are just starting out then yes defined sound might be better as it will attract those who like that sound BUT it could also work that diverse could bring people to the sound that you are most gearing towards but add a few surprises in there to bring that crowd of people to the clearly defined material

mixing it up for variety on the label is good as long as its not too far off..like industrial bands and emo bands wouldn't be a good mix...
but a mixture of different styles of electro/industrial/ebm/synthpop is cool...maybe it will expand somes horizons more..

E-Freak: I didn't say A+P is "brilliant" (few bands are in this scene) but both of his albums are excellent. There's A LOT of GREAT bands without labels in this scene, so saying a band sucks because they don't have a label is a bit dumb. I think the press his first 2 albums got can speak for themselves. It might not be YOUR taste, but that doesn't mean they're not good.

I didn't say they're terrible...just average.

I don't agree at all. Above average I would say.. Especially for when they came out. But whatever.. Back on topic.

Tommyt: Which album on DSBP was "rhythmic noise" ?

Telephasic

Different strokes for different folks.You said you like diverse labels (gothic rock,synthpop,hellektro,authentic dark elektro,old school EBM,hip hop etc). Does diversification affect the label's integrity (i'm referring to small INDIE labels) or is it a win-win situation?

I think small indie labels should preserve their identity &vision.

As long as the music is quality, I don't think so. We already have too many labels now, no need to create a label for every style of music.

I am curious what you guys think of the Beggars group... they have/had everyone from Luna, Bauhaus/Love and Rockets, the Cult, Dot Allison, MIA, Stereolab , Super Furry Animals, Mouse on Mars... Peaches .. and I am sure I am forgetting a ton of other bands we all know

They are the epitome of "diverse" genre hopping

I dont know what glues those bands together other than the fact that they are all quite good.. and i bet a lot of us like most of the bands mentioned though we'd probably put them in different "categories"

its almost like the label is just an arbiter of good taste w/out regards to "genre" .. I dont know if that is the concept people are going for when they mean diverse : That is find bands they think are good (whether it is DSBP or Beggars or what have you) and give the middle finger to "sameness/genre/categories", but if so I heartily approve! Fuck authentic! Bring on Good!

-bloolovesyou

@telephasic
we have released lots of albums which contained "rhythmic noise" tracks...Futronik Structures vol.3, Cybonetix 2002,Diverje(remixed by Converter ,ML and Pain Station).Aghast View (remixed by Manufactura,Morgenstern),Coito,the last 3 tracks on Severe Illusion,Control.Org has a couple,Andraculoid also has some on his albums, in-FUSED also has a bunch,and Liquefaction has one too...

Oh, I was thinking of a full length album from a Rhythmic Noise act. Not compilation tracks or one or two tracks. I thought maybe I missed something.

Back on topic-I think it's more important to have diverse bands then diverse labels. We all get tired of hearing the same track for an hour. We also get tired of hearing the same rant for an hour [or day/what have you]. Metro did very well introducing a more diverse sound but they made a grave mistake signing too many one hit wonder bands and overflowing the market. Labels need to simplify thier strategy. Concentrate more on well made music and vision and spend more time making sure each release is quality not quantity. I would much rather support a label with 10 solid refined bands then another with 50 chewy amatuer bands..

`michael

I am in the process of starting a new label as well (Sigsaly Transmissions)...yes, another label...
I will put money behind and release artists that I enjoy and I feel are talented and have potential. Mainly "EBM/Electro/industrial/etc...etc..." acts. Many may say it might be diverse but I disagree. These genre's are not really even recognized as valid genres yet and just sub-sets under "electronic".

Like many of you I grew up in the 70-80's and had various influences from Punk, New-Wave, Industrial, Electronic, Avant Gard, etc...
So, in essence I would say it will not be too "diverse". Meaning, no rock & roll, no Hip-Hop, no House, etc... just good old quality under-ground electronic/industrial music. I like lots of music. Not just one particular "genre".

I agree with Freska... true diversity for a small label (releasing a Rock album along side an Old-School EBM act) would only drain resources and show potential buyers that you are only in it for the greenbacks and may turn some away. Which for me, is not the case! I would be happy to break even... My goal is to support and spread the sound I/we love.

Con's - for a small start-up label... true "diversity" is too risky. and may be detrimental to the label's "public image". ;) As for large labels (Arista, Sony, etc..) fuck off! :P

Pro's - Depends... are the releases quality? Do the artists have appeal to the target audience? To early for me to answer this one. But as many have mentioned... Wax Trax! (prior to TVT) is what I look up to. Diverse and yet appealing to all. Well.... except for Divine maybe. :D

hmm.. please call me some more names.. it makes me SO happy... ;-)

And, thx for those who actally know our 2 first albums, and know a bit about the press they got at that time. And, Efreak, remember, it is 7 years ago the last album was recorded.. so it is pretty old music you are kinda bashing, but that's ok, i actally like my music being critizised, that way i know what i maybe can improve on.. asskissing leads you nowhere!

helosix

I look forward to the K-bereit album:)

dr.funz

Glad i could help LOL.I've gotta admit that your tracks on chaindlk are well done (not my cup of tea though).Good luck in your career endeavors.

efreak, glad to show you that regarding production and recording, i have some experince, and i know how to put it to use.. but we can all learn stuff, including me!
THAT is why i dare to go into discussions about soundquality and production ect ect..

yeah, me too!

Diversified is good as long as the label has a clear focus, a clear goal. Celtic Circle is an example of a label with a very diversified roster that in the end became totally focusless.

CCP was a top notch elektro label.I wish Alfred could get his act together:(

@ Nader,

NP :)

@helosix
good luck with starting a label..
its not easy work at all to keep it going and you will always be prone to make mistakes, we all are..

I look forward to hearing some bands from your roster..

Helosix

I've heard 3 new K-bereit tracks (you know i'm friends with Dom).The album will kick some major asses:)

tommyt & electrofreak
-thanks guys. I can use the luck... it will be a while. We are taking our time and trying to do things right by not rushing anything. Still have a to work out before anything hits the streets...

I set my sights high but am a realist, so I know things will be rough most (if not all) the time. A dreamer and a realist all at the same time. lol... is that even possible?

helosix

Right on! EAR (old school EBM & authentic dark electro)& Deathkon Media (modern electro-industrial) will only release quality electro stuff.

Same goes for SIGSALY TRANSMISSIONS! ;)

Are you gonna sign Cobalt 60 as well?