Regarding Tribantura: They made some noise with "Lack Of Sense". I would have liked some more material from them. The same with Brigade Werther. One song and gone.

Warrior

Brigade Werther release a 4-track CD EP "To Be Continued" (ZOTH 08CD)

I've 6 or 7 Tribantura tracks on comps (+ the classic "Lack of Sense" mcd).It was a great EBM project.

released*

I have the BW CDep "Killbeat" is their strongest track. Does the "Werther Rap" count as a song? :)

Which Pouppee Fabrikk is your favorite?

PF "Rage" cd, "Summoning" mcd & "Betrayal" mcd

I figured those would be the ones you liked the best. haha. There are a few tracks on "We've come to drop.." CD I like as well. Some tracks are pretty metal sounding. "Rage" is the classic for a reason though.

Never heard anything after "We've Come,,"CD

I don't listen to ém:( "Elite electronics"mcd was good though

Additions:

-Johnson Engineering Co
-Institute For The Criminally Insane
-What's

@Warrior

What do you think of Paranoid & Inside Treatment?

I forgot to mention Force Dimension

+Company of State

Yes. The Force Dimension. They were great.

well.....I'd have to say that I don't think most of these bands were overlooked. I mean most of them
were on the big (within the scene of course) labels (antler, energy, KK, zoth, KM, machinery..), with good
distribution (spv in most cases) and so had the same shot at greatness as the bands on those labels who
became much bigger. I think if you had a good record deal, the label did their bit to promote you, and you
still didn't make it, well, hmmm...tells it's own story really. (Unless of course you split up after 1 single, or deliberately avoided success
or something..). Would that not be fair to say?

PS: I would not lump pouppee into this bunch. Surely they can't be considered as overlooked?

Benestrophe

E, I do like Paranoid & What's very much..unfortunately I am not familiar with Inside Treatment or Company Of State. I will look into those 2.

I forgot to mention Fatal Morgana."The Destructive Solution" cd is a CLASSIC (&highly sought-after) old school EBM album.

Warrior

Inside Tratment released 3 albums. "Isolated Suburban Psychokillers In Coma" cd (Parade Amoureuse,1990) & "Underneath My Purple Shades" cd (Energy Rekords,1991) are HIGHLY recommended. Company of State vinyls (Anything But records & Antler) are long OOP:(

Fatal Morgana is fantastic!!! One of my favorites!

@divider
"Sensory Deprivation" by Benestrophy is a killer release.

How about About:

Noise Control
Negrosex
Pluuto
Absent Minded

Negrosex were awesome."God & Evil" ,"Dance you Bastards" & "Techno La Droga" are classic electro releases. Noise Control (the first electro project of Torben Schmidt) & Pluuto "Isn't it Crazy"mcd rock!

Absent Minded were very talented & i hope they'll come back.

Also:

Boy Toy (Dumb name, great sound) Too bad they did not do more.
Hypnopedia (Boy Recs)
Time Modem (Boy Recs)
Dirty Harry (Subway)

Gee you've Dirty Harry? I'm very impressed:)

Hell Yeah! "D'Bop" 3"cd kicks ass! I have a few comp tracks as well.

Pick A Number
Miss Nicky Trax
Erotic Dissidents

I love this stuff!

@Warrior

Do you've Sigmund Und Sein Freund vinyls (Antler Subway)?

E...I know of them, though I do not have anything by them.

Good stuff.

Mao Tse Tung Experience isnt talked about much.

When I used to DJ I used to play "Irregular Times" alot, good track

Interactive: they have a bunch of releases. Never hear much about them. They have some real cool tracks.

I second Mao Tse Tung Experience. "Revolver"cd & "Kill Your Idols" 12"are highly sought-after.

Heh Mao Tse Tung Experience.. I think I heard their song "Zombies March" on some compilation.. Not bad. :)

"Irregular Times"is my fav MTTE track

Warrior

erotic dissidents is the new-beat side-project of Poesie Noire. MEGA RARE title!

Poesie Noire
"Existential Despair, Metaphysical Distress, Ontological Ungludation And Cosmic Meltdown" cd
Erotic Dissidents "Move Your Ass And Feel The Beat" 3"cd

are some my favorite releases, I listen to them quite frequently.

Poesie Noire are working on a new album!

geez.. does anyone stay retired anymore? :) cool, i will check it out.

I told ya. Veteran electro bands are gonna reconquer DA SCENE!

Have to agree with Srac, Poupee can´t be considered overlooked. Or at least I, as a Swede, don´t think so. I´m grown it with them.

E-freak:
Lovely to finaly hear about someone that cares about Sigmund und sein Freunde, most people never heared about them.

Grown u,p it should be.

A new album will be produced by Poesie Noire, but it won't be on Antler Subway...:)

Ulul

Electrofreak is a veteran old school electrohead (i'm 36)

Dark Meat

Whats your fav Poesie Noire album?

Same as "warrior"..."Poesie Noire - Existential Despair, Metaphysical Distress, Ontological Ungludation And Cosmic Meltdown", but also "Tales Of Doom"...

@ ulul

"Sigmund und sein Freund" :-) They were great.

Mao Tse Tung Experience later became Spartak I believe. They also had some nice tunes.

Unknown Mix were also a great band from Switserland. I got the LP " U Mix" from 1984, which is a very nice album. Anybody familiar with them?

Hmmm the name rings a bell...

It was released on Recommended Records...

vinyl or cd (or both)?

Vinyl I guess. 1984... I just came across this LP and bought it as it was very good music. Very strange electrowave. Bleepy, tribal... i can't really describe them.

ACB

Do you've Johnson Engineering Co "Unleash"cd?

Nope :/

HIGHLY recommended.

JEC is the first EBM project (87-90) of Electro Assassins

I"ve got " Bioculture".

The three Electro Assassins albums are darn good.

And "out of print".

LESSIGUE BENDTHAUS!

Lassigue Bendthaus!

Wasn't Haujobb. the first LB tribute band?

Bendthaus weren't overlooked ..sheesh.

Electrofreak is right. KK was not obscure and LB made pretty decent sales I believe.

'The three Electro Assassins albums are darn good.'

I definitly second that!! one of my favourite old school bands ever :)

What are some of the Great & Highly Overlooked HARSH Old School EBM bands ?

Pouppee Fabrikk got a LOT of attention, atleast here in Sweden... together with Cat Rapes Dog, they are considered the most classic EBM-band of all times. You could ask any person into EBM here, and they'd agree. :)

No, my vote goes for the band I always namedrop: Mussolini Headkick
Now THAT's an overlooked band... :)

When people say "I love Haujobb" immediately followed by "who's Lassigue Bendthaus?", yes, they are overlooked.

Kada

Yeppers Mussolini Headkick was a great & highly overlooked project.

Used to love the track Get Out by them.

Rivetmike

Cyrax

My consultation fee is $2k:)

I was just spinning that Mussolini Headkick the other day. That's a great cd.

Parade Ground!

They were heavily influenced (& produced) by F242

Warrior

Do you've Severance (ex Winterkalte) "Naturecide" mcd (Hands, 1994)? Excellent Old School EBM EP

Negative..E....I am familiar with Winterkalte though.

"Naturecide"mcd is a must have.

I will make a mental of that.

You reminded of Scapa Flow the other day. I haven't listened to them in ages. Good stuff.

"The Guide"mcd is a classic electro release.

E....Whats your favorite PNE release?

"Transmitted Memory"DCD. I'm eagerly awaiting the new album

Do you've Serpents " Terminal Breath" cd & "Have Fun"mcd?

Yes, I do! ;)

'My consultation fee is $2k:)'


Mean electrofreak! :P

No-one mentioned Airchrash Bureau (the artist not a forum member!) or Blind Vision or Konzept!

Blind Vision & Konzept are top notch.

So the forum member ACB is not an old school artist? Blah :)

ACB is a founding member of DEB!

Yeah, let's see mp3s we actually write stuff for the fun collaborations how about you? :D

DEB are anti-MP3. Very "old school" i know:)

Emperor/Dennis

You're right.New Zone roster was AWESOME!

MP3's are so 2002.

@warrior

Do you've PP? "Splendind Threat" mcd (KM Music, 1992) & "Itum Allenro" (KM Music 1994)?

PP? was highly overlooked:(

Non Aggression Pact
Hexedene
Vein Cage

darkhorizons

Old school electro releases...

Schleimer K
Shoc Corridor
Image Transmission
Workforce
The Grief

The Grief were great!

ACB

Do you own The Grief "Nonobstant Le Cagoulisme Ltd"?

Nope :/

Keine Ahnung were great. Remember thier hit "Plastik" ? Time for a proper rerelease of their backcatalogue!

Hmmm never heard of them.

You can find "Plastik" on the "New Deutsch" sampler from International Gigolo Records. Recommended listening.

ACB is focused on minimal elektro:)

Minimal is old school too. Just listen to Echo West or Skanform and you know what I mean.

I know i know:)

PC box-set is coming out in May!

Yeah PP was cool. Their stuff is way hard to find. Always thought it was a funny name for a band. PP huh huh huh

The New Zone Roster is the best! Blind Vision "Don't Look At Me" is one of my all time faves ever!

I think I saw Sigmund und Seine Freunde (Or was it Freude) on a CD around 1999-2000 where they changed their sound to a Tomcraft-style techno sort of thing.

@ Warrior

Agreed on New Zone. Had a lot of their stuff on cassette. I'm still searching for a few rarities in digital format cause they're all gone now...

Nostromo Dept... owned!
Master Program... cool stuff.. sometimes a little too 242ish.
Umo Detic... Come on, it's 2/3 of Bigod 20!
Konzept... One of my favorites, but their dirty secret was one of the main brains went on to form Captain Hollywood Project ;)
and Blind Vision's "Don't Look at Me" is one I've been searching for, for quite a while.

You're right.I was referring to their vinyl releases on Antler Subway: "Secret", "Sacred", "See Emily Play", "Love Lust Leave"etc

Of Skin & Saliva was great, "Sahul" is a fantastic song. I wish their other songs were like that with that vocal.

DRP were great. But nobody seems to remember them anymore.

I sure do! "Electro Brain 586" is a classic electro album.

I know You do ;-)

ACB

Do you remember Voltage Control (Antler Subway)? "Apocalypse" is a great body tune.

Yes, but I don't have anything by them. Still on my wantlist.

& Company of state?

Wantlist too.

But I do have Flesh and Fell...

:) They released 4 EP's on Anything But Records.Do you've Aimless Device vinyls?

Neither :-((

I wasn't that much of a collector when they were around, so I missed out on a lot.

Shame on you ACB:)

I'm catching up. :-)

ACB

What about Happy Hunting Ground "S/T" MLP (Anything But records)?Early old school EBM classic.

Are you trying to make me depressed? :-)

No way:)

Tommi Stumpff

Suicide Commando is doing a coverversion of his "Massaker", but as Tommi Stumpff has no interest in his past as an electro icon at the moment it seems that his work will never be released again. Bummer. :/

Keine Anhung were awesome, check out the track "sentimentale jugend"
fast, hard minimal/body music. They also made some great minimal electro pop tunes
like "Plastik"...

I 2nd Sigumund und sein freund, esp the 12" "Sacred" and "Secret". Great stuff!

ACB and EF, do you listen to Flowerpot Men? Very very good stuff. DAF meets
Suicide at a rockabilly party. They released a few great EPs.

Long before I had ever heard of Keine Ahnung, I once had the CD which compiled most of their work in my hands, but didn't buy it. A decision I regret to this day. :(

Baaaaad ACB!

ACB & Electrofreak know their stuff really well:)

TPM

Minimal Elektro is ACB's specialty.I'm more focused on Old School EBM, hardbeat & authentic dark elektro.

I wouldn't mind to get my filthy hands on both your record collections :)

"Jo's so mean" by Flowerpot Men is awesome Old School EBM from 1984/85...

TPM

I'll check ém out.Thanks!

:)

@TPM

Do you've Institute For The Criminally Insane "Gekippt"cd & "Audiotherapy"mcd?

ACB

Do you rember Typis Belgis?Their tracks on "Ltd Entertainment", "Music From Belgium"& "Welcome To the Technodrome"were amazingly good.

remember*

Yes I do. They released some great tracks and then dissapeared without a trace.
Twilight Ritual? Genetic released their first album last year.

Yep i've 2 Twilight Ritual cd's (Subtronic & Genetic).

Advanced Art were highly overlooked

Nope EF.

ACB

Whats your fav Tommi Stumpff album?

E....Good call on Inside Treatment. Found a copy of "Estate Of Insanity" CD from Energy Recs 1994 at the local shop. Its pretty good!

How about:

Mimic Mind "Plunder For Profit" CD 1995 Broken Seal
Cool disc....

Warrior

Mimic Mind is pretty good. Try to find the 1st two Inside treatment albums "Isolated Suburban Psychokillers" & "Underneath My Purple Shades".

I will indeed look out for the 2 releases.

I really like Typis Belgis "Aimless" track.....

They toured with Vomito Negro in the late 80's.

I've only listened to "Zu spät Ihr Scheißer, hier ist Tommi Stumpff" years ago. A friend had a tapecopy. An original Schallmauer pressing is worth its weight in gold I believe.

Yeah it's mega rare:(

Have you seen the prices on GEMM?
The album is so rare because Schallmauer went banktrupt shortly after it came out.

I'd agree with electrofreak up there. Pouppee Fabrikk never got the attention they deserved ;(

Pouppee Fabrikk are great :)

But I disagree with them, PF, falling into the "great but highly overlooked" category.

ACB

PF are working on new material!

I know. I heard the rumors. :-)

PF, or leif + volt?

Mekanik Kommando is a band that deserves much better then just to be a footnote. Their brilliant albums are amongst my priced possesions and even here No-one knows them. But then we Dutch also completely forgot about Minny Pops and The Actor. :/

Srac

CAP's (Leif & Christian) sophomore release "Pressure" is coming out in May. Volt's (Christian & the former singer of Dupont)debut slated for July release.Last but not least, PF (original lineup) are currently working on new material (no release date yet).

It's ok, I know Christiaan personally, and acquainted with the others. My understanding (haven't chatted to C in a while) was that bjorkk, ouilla and jonas are through with PF, and the new PF material would be by leif + volt - the same as the PF lineup that I saw play in Dessau last year. I could be wrong, since like I said, it's been a few months since I caught up with Christiann.....

Christian is a busy bee:)He did an amazing remix for Grandchaos.

@ ACB

Mekanik Kommando !!! First coupla albums like "Snake Is Queen" (Crow !!!), "Bay The Moon", especially do the trick for me...

what`s the thing with the several dutch minimal bands, after the first, initial minimal/experimental/dancy faze, introducing "spoken word", pianos, more ambient, serious atmospheres in their latter releases ? That was the case with Minny Pops, Nasmak, Mekanik Kommando and I think a few more ?

is it LPD`s fault perhaps... or whose ?

@Man Amplified

You should track down Mekanik Kommando " It would be quiet in the woods if only a few birds sing". Others of interest are Ensemble Pittoresque, The Actor, Ende Schneafliet, Doxa Sinistra. Check out:

www.enfant-terrible.com

They got these titles in stock.

Oops:

www.enfant-terrible.nl

ACB

Plurex was a great minimal electro label.Do you remember A Blaze Colour?

& do you've Federal State "N:Euro" cd (Parade Amoureuse,1989)?

E....TL DCD will have to wait till Saturday.. Dammit!!!!

How is "Mutilation" by The Psychic Force? I have "Traces" and it is pretty cool. Never was able to grab the first one though. Kinda forgot about them.

"Mutilation" (long OOP) is 10 x better!It's a classic (&highly soughter-after) old school release.

sought-after*

Warrior

Do you've No Comment "Harmony EP"; "Drawback Infect" & "Eyes" (Subtronic records)?

I had "Bondage" and "Love In Chains". Those releases were okay. I guess the earlier stuff is better. I think they have a best of DCD if I remember correctly.

Warrior

The new No comment releases are pure synthpop:(Check out the aforementioned titles. Pure old school gems

Second Communication and DRP
I was a lot into these Japanese (Bodies) musicians...

Right on Marc:)

other highly overlooked names

Oil In The Eye
Sepulchre Inc.

yes & yes:)

Nader, do you have that rare Oil In The Eye 12" "Sey & Surgery"?

"SEX & SURGERY"

Uh huh

How is it with this 12 " classic?

Cat Rapes Dog - "Columna Vertebralis"

10/10

Highly underrated:

Blue Eyed Christ - "Leaders and Followers" out on KK Records
The band is still around but nowadays dealing with Metal X-over...

Portion Control
Gracious Shades
Public Image Limited
Course of Empire

I like metal...I liked BEC too. Wonder if they're any good?

cthulufunk & stevil

wrong thread.Gracious Shedas,PIL&Vourse of Empire have nuttin to do with old school electro.

Marc

Yep i love "Leaders & Followers".

course*

Gracious Shades "Inoculation of the Media" is a decent album though.

Machineries of Joy - "Wahre Arbeit, wahrer Lohn" (Die Krupps/NEP) 12 "

Marc

That's an ooooold goodie (1981)

What about Nigra Nebula? Did turn into something else?

Nigra was an excellent dark elektro project

the thread just says old school bands. i dont see the word electro.

the thread just says old school bands. i dont see the word electro.

No worries Stevil:)

i sense a lawsuit...................................

:)

Warrior

Stevil was charged with trespassing on the old school electro territory:)

I do believe Stevil to have good intentions. I think you can settle out of court.

Yeah i think 200K +his entire old school collection is a fair deal.

@Bryen_Datacode

Chris L., Falgalas, one of the keyboard players from Nigra Nebula joined Dance or Die for live support at first, then became a full member of the band shortly after.

damn dude, you are merciless! I thinking settle out of court over a few beers. I guess I should "wake up and smell the 90's" haha

Oh and E....You seem to have all old school releases anyway. That makes you 2X the merciless one. You will have doubles so others cannot have 1.. haha

:)

@Stevil

(we're just goofing around)

@Nader

I know the Body or NEP inspired bands seem to have a Totalitarian image design to their visual concept, are any of these bands boardering on the Nazi visual theme(s)? any band names or sites you can give me reference to?.

Thanx if you can!

my electro partition has deteriorated with age...

so nobody's gonna mention merzbow?

@Sedusa

I'll check my vinyls &get back to you.

@Sedusa

Check out Groupe T (french old school EBM act)

@Marc

Do you remember Industrial Artz "Move To the Groove" 12"(1990)

& Wasted Doom "Anger Your Neighbours" 12"(KM, 1987)?

& Severance "Dreams of Youth" 12"(Hypnobeat,1990)?

IA - yes, I have it here
I know that Wasted Doom, but don't own it, same for The Severance (pre-Winterkälte?).

How is it with Schnitt 8, before they start to include that crappy guitars into their music?

Grouch 12 "
Fire 12 "
Subhuman Minds 12 " (with an unreleased B-side "He's Back") are awesome old-school Electro classics!!!

Okay i'm impressed Mr Marc:)

Yep Severance (pre-Winterkalte) "Dreams of Youth" 12" (Hypnobeat,1990), "S/T" MC (Hands,1993) & "Naturecide mcd (Hands,1994) are old school EBM gems.

we need a full Tribantura album !!!


"Lack of Sense" is Killer :-)

Agreed.Old school electro is regaining ground & i hope the classic electro acts will comeback &send generic hellektroers packing:))

@ Nader: The "Naturecide" MCD of Severance I have, a fine piece which I'd never give away!

other names:

MANUFACTURE - Armed Forces 12" (Nettwerk/SPV)
ANOTHER NATION - Move Out 12 " (produced by P. Geyer of Manufacture)

Yeppers + Gruesome Twosome "Hallucination Generation" mcd (Nettwerk)

Damn, I didn't know there was a pre-winterkalte project. What does it sound like?

@Stevil from way above:Merzbow is still doing music. the newer stuff is great!

@Marc & Electro: Manufacture was one of my favourite bands in the 90's. I wasn't big on records but I had the cassette tape of "Terrorvision", playing in my fiero ;) Excellent sounds!

`michael

Severance is pure old school EBM.

Marc &ACB

Do you remember Liquid G?

Looks like there is a metal band also called Severance. Where can I find into about the EBM project?

`michael

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Severance ("Dreams of Youth"12"isn't listed)

So did they not have a full length release?

`michael

Nope.Severance is a cult old school band.

They've 3 official releases

-"Dreams of Youth" 12" (Hypnobeat,1990)
-"Live" MC (Hands, 1993)
-"Naturecide" mcd (Hands, 1994)

thanks for the info!

`michael

What about TILT! anyone else enjoy them? I only have the "next degeneration", CD and they dissapeared before i could find more..

`michael

Tilt released 3 albums + 1 mcd

-"Aliens & Orgasms" (Antler Subway/Danse Macabre, 1990)
-"The Next degeneration" (Danse Macabre,1992)
-"I Put A Smell On You" (CCP,1995)
-"A Tribute To The Pogues" mcd (CCP,1995)

I have "Aliens & Orgasms". It has been ages since I last played that.

I have lately had an email discussion about the TILT leader Zadoc (Mario). He is away from music, but very successful as a journalist, www.sixtus.net

@ Nader: Yes, I remember Liquid G, and not only from their "Somewhere in the Skeleton" appearance. I also think that this guy is somewhere still around, will check this. I have here a demo split tape with Kandinsky and also a tape of a Liquid G side-project called Hydrom Line. Very old and minimal Electro stuff.

Consolidated

The 25th Of May - the best band to come out of Liverpool UK ever

regarding Liquid G, please check this:
http://www.geocities.com/industrialzone/bands/liquidg/indexlg2.html

Force Dimension - Deus Ex Machina LP (put on KK Records, Lasergunn, Packman, Body Snatcher are classics...)

... and a name which normally does not at all fit with this, but it was a little club hit in some dark clubs in Germany:

Conrolled Bleeding - The Fodder Song

Greatly overlooked old school:

Megafon
Native Soil
The Awful Death
Random Reality
GAS

Marc

Do you've both editions of Force Dimension "S/T" (blue & red) & which one do you prefer?

PS;Liquid G CDR's are darn good!

satan242

Never heard of ém.

hey, what happened to Nigra Nebula???
I know they started something new a long time ago...

@ Electrofreak

The red one....

I prefer the red edition as well:)

Fuze Box Machine
A Thousand Societies ( "Apothéose Décibel" !!!)

I second Fuze Box Machine.

@Marc

What happened to Digital Slaughter (featured on Rotation 2 & 3, Forms of Electronic Body Music & Induktion Varianz)?

@ satan242: You have picked out some very rare to find names. From your 5 acts I know only those both acts from Sweden,

Native Soil - I have 2 original demo tapes of them here, minimal EBM, maybe a bit like Inside Treatment.

The Awful Death - They were featured on a split-CD compilation "Malleus maleficarum" released by Death Publishing (maybe their own label???) back in 1991 I think. Cool Dark Electro. Another band from this comp was Chirugie Esthetique, which I really like. What ever happened with them?

@ Nader: I have only the red one...

Digital Slaughter/Oliver Freytag was working on his debut CD in 1996. It was considered to be out on Michael Irmers (band: CONSEQUENCE) label Human Deadline. This never happens. I am not sure if Stefan Herwig to that time was thinking of signing him for Off Beat. I heard such rumours to that time...

=Bloc 57

The first Blok 57 is excellent. I did not care too much for the second.
I would think a lot of people paid attention to this release (1st CD) because of Dirk Ivens leaving The Klinik.

Also:

Metropolis
Umo Detic
No More

Marc,

Native Soil made at least 7 tapes. One of the two members from the Awful Death was involved in Death Pubishing, the people from Chirurgie Estitique were not. Chirurgie Estitique split up just after that compilation was released. I dont think any of the members ever made any music after that.

There was a song called 'Redemption' by a band Ferro Concrete, 12 years ago on an obscure Rotation.3 compilation. Anyone heard it? That was AMAZING song, I listen to it very often and sadly there's NO information about this band (or most likely one-off one person project) on internet... I'd recommend this song and whole Rotation.3 compilation to all fans of older electro music...

V/A "Rotation 1,2 & 3"(Kugelblitz) are AWESOME old school comps.

Warrior

Do you've Blok 57 "Mean Machine" mcd?

Marc

What happened to Idiogene Geniotie (Gothic Art records)?

i think Insurgent from canada was a very overlooked old-school band. their 1st cd "system structure security" is simply a blast!

violent, apocalyptic and dangerous stuff in the vein of skinny puppy/ministry with some dark-ambient hints...

@ stmayhem:

Ferro Concrete - right on: I have contacted this guy back in 1996 for the Vertigo magazine (R.I.P.) - and the luck I had - I could get a 90 minutes long demo tape of them. Their music was awesome and they had a few tracks which are better then "Redemption". You have to know, that they have recorded "Redemption" especially for this Kugelblitz compilation in the studio of Sevren Ni-arb (XMTP). The original version is more rough. Unfortunatly this band ended up because of different music views between singer and the machinist...

@ Nader: Sorry, haven't heard of them - lets say I had not that huge interest in their music...

@ demog: Hi Andy, you are right with this first one of them. Insurgent are still around and have released - I think - three more CD's after "SSS". But as far what I know, none of them can be recommend in that vein like "SSS". Maybe our Canadians here know more...?

@marc: hi marc! yep, their albums after "sss" are just dissapointing. i don't know what's happened with them after "sss" 'coz that later stuff sounds completely amateurish. btw.: as far as i know they call themself now Insurgent Inc.

@Andreas

SSS is a solid album.I think they're from Montreal.

@Marc

Do you know Lost Image & Psychic Force?

@Marc

any chance to copy the tape? :)

@ stmayhem:

to copy it 1:1 on tape = YES, to do a digital copy on CD-R: not possible in the next 9 months I think... Mail me under my SL forum account for details.

@ Nader

Yes, of course. I have both Lost Image releases here, for Psychic Force I have only "Mutilation" and the tape "Body language". I haven't had that interest in "Traces" after listened to it a few times. I know Jörg Charnowski personally back from the old, we had a lot of parties and drinks ;-)

@Marc

Lost Image was an awesome project ("Electrocution"is one of my fav dark elektro albums).what happened to ém?

PS:PF "Traces" is a sub-par album.

@Marc

Do you remember Alpha Squad (featured on V/A "Blood & Computers 1 &2)?They never released a full length cd:(

& what happened to your former labelmates Putrefy Factor 7 & Absent Minded?

@ Nader:

Alpha Squad, no - may I have to check back their stuff.
Email me under my SL account, if you are interested to hear the latest recordings of both ccp bands...

@Marc

Do you mean (ex) CCP or current? do these band plan a comeback?

@Marc

Of course!Check your e-mail buddy:)

@ Sedusa:

well, it belongs to both eras... Both bands are dead now for sure, especially for PF7 it was a long and slow death. The latest plans of Alfred were to release their ready done follow-up CD (Absent Minded) and/or a "best of..." with new and unreleased tracks (PF7) in a box set compareable somehow with that Amgod piece. I don't like to tell you here more, also for you, please mail me...

@ satan242:

Thanx for the info. Are you hailing from Sweden? Do you know the band Genetic Anomaly? I am not sure if they are still around, they were at times available at MP3.com... Good old-school EBM, I still like their stuff...

@ stmayhem:

will answer tonight.

@ Nader:

dto.

I have been friends with Don of PF7 for a while now. I think the last thing he did officially is the remix for us on "Synapse", and a remix for our canadian friends "Scrape". The last new music I have heard from Don was 2003. I love the new direction I heard and I have been bugging him to make more..heh

`michael

@Michael

Keep buggin him:)

Genetic Anomaly were darn good!

@ soilodge: Hi Michael, it is just a pity that they died that slow. Don lately has sold most of his equipment out of his studio. He sent me a demo CDR with 6 of their last recorded tracks and with a lot of remix works (like the ones you mentioned...). CCP wanted to do this "Best of" with this 6 new tracks, some rare to find pieces (like that "Headkick" track from "our" Vertigo comp...) and some of their very best classics. Until now this never happened and I also don't know if this plans are still up to date...

@ Nader: no email here from you, my friend....:-)

Huh that's weird!

@Marc

Do you know FPAQ?"Perpetual" cd kicks ass.I wonder what happened to ém:(

ACB

Could you please inquire into the wherabout's of Fatal Morgana? (They're Dutch)

I'll try to find out. It's been a very long time that they were active. They probably went down the technoroute into total anonimity never to be seen or heard from again, like most Dutch EBM acts.
But rumour has it that Image Transmission are seriously considering making a short comeback and record some new stuff. The remixed old tracks on their site are quite nice.

ACB

Are IT workin on new material? I certainly hope so.

From what I gathered they are considering it, but no real plans have been made yet. So we have to make do with the remixes on their site.

@ Nader:

I don't own this CD of FPAQ, but have heard it back in 1996 I think. A bit Puppy-an influenced I would say. Not bad, but I couldn't get into it to that time...

@Marc

Do you've Network Access cd (Psychic Force side-project)?

ACB

Keep buggin IT & try to get info on Fatal Morgana:)

Image Transmission....I noticed ACB mentioned them. They were pretty damn cool in the mid 90's.

I listened to Lost Image (The one with Spaceman or something on the cover) a long time ago. It really didn't hit me. Perhaps I should check it again.

BOURBONESE QUALK ........not great IMO, but decent and overlooked.
MUSSOLINI HEADKICK
SECOND VOICE

Second Voice is awesome. I think I actually like them more than BiGod-20. I own both of their albums.

@warrior

Yep Lost Image "Electroction"is AMAZINGLY good!.

PS; I LOVE Second Voice & Mussolini Headkick

"Electrocution"*

Pouppee Fabrikk had the best Cd artwork. Lots of boobies =)

@ Tele: If you count in "DAWN - the collection" then Second Voice had 3 albums.
I like them very much, good band !

Lost Image is good also, but i wonder if the "new" Lost Image is the same band then this older darkelectro project ? Cause it sounds quite synthpoppy now...or is it another band with only the same name ?

AQ

What are you talking about?Lost Image released two albums in the mid 90's.

Sect

I bought one album that was amazing many years ago in the beginning of the nineties. I still play it some times, but what happened to them? Were they just a one trick pony? Electrofreak! Please help me out!

Sect (Canadian band from Vancouver,BC) released their awesome debut "Telekinetic" cd in 94 & vanished off the face of the earth:(

Warrior

The Lost Image album you're referring to is "The Concept of Evil".Check out their smashing debut "Electrocution".

damn. I wish there was more then just one album. They really were awesome, but somehow nobody I know has ever heard of them.

I guess they were Thee "one trick electro pony". Which is very sad in this case.

@ e-freak: I thought of hearing a band named "Lost Image" that made kind of synthpop w/ some guitars. Maybe i confuse the name though. I have Lost Image "The Concept Of Evil" Need to listen to it again.

AQ

Maybe you're referring to Lost Signal? LI "The Concept of Evil"is okay. I strongly recommend their highly sought-after debut "Electrocution".

@ e-freak

you guys talk too much bands for my knowledge, i´m still exploring this genre so i would ask you, if possible, to name, say, 10 great cds representative of oldschool sound ( and easy to find on musicstack or cdbaby )

thanx in advance

E-freak: Yep, Lost Signal. This is nothing special i think. Lost Image better !

galvaoRod

Most of ém are OOP & very pricey:(

Check out

-Splatter Squall "Spell"(i saw a cheap copy on musicstack)
-Plastic Noise Experience "Dead or aAive"DCD (best of comp on Alfa Matrix)
-Nitzer Ebb "that Total age (still available)
-Front 242 backcatalogue (still available)
-Leaether Strip "Solitary Confinement" & Self-Inflicted
-Klinik backcatalogue (re-released)
-Insekt live cd (Alfa Matrix)


@Marc

Do you remember the American band Dresden? Their debut "Codex"cd (Oxide records,1991) is very good.I wonder what happened to ém.

@ Electro freak

You forgot about Front242--"Geography". A definite classic rereleased by Alfa Matrix. I am still waiting for that announced rerelease of "No Comment" that they promissed us two years ago.......

Hurry up will Ya!!!

ACB

"Geography" DCD is out of print.

Happy I got a copy.

@ACB

Do you've F242 bootleg live cd's?

I got the "official" one from the concert that I saw in 1993 at Vredenburg in Utrecht, Holland. Fun fact. They played so loud and the sound was so bad that I hat tweeting ears for 3 days and when the concert got out I didn't believe that it was the same concert, that I had attended.

Do you have the streamaudio from the Wermut@Hex gig in Amsterdam from last year? Very good soundquality. They played some songs that they haven't released yet.

Nope :(

I've the 1986 & 1987 F242 bootleg cd's (tey were on top of their game)The 1993 official live cd is decent:)

out of curiosity, why restrict to cd? I've around ninety 242 boots, many on CD/LP/7", but most on good 'ol tape. And mainly from the 81-91 :-) I think tape was one of the best formats for capturing that 'live' feeling, even with the extra hiss...

@srac

I've two F242 live tapes. How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

been in my 30s a while ;-)

:)

@Electrofreak
Maybe it's still in their archive:

www.welt-am-draht.de

;-)

He! The VPRO did a very decent job with recording the Frontgig.

Uuhoo, I've lost attention for this thread, sorry for that.

@ Nader: Network Access, of course I have. I was also on their record release party in Bochum somewher in 1996 I think.

I have never heard of a band "Dresden" I must admit...

Strangely I like LI "The Concept of Evil" much more than the debut "Electrocution". To me the debut was quite too plain somehow...

@Marc

What happened to Lost Image?

yeah, good question, Nader. I really don't know...

@Marc

Are you friends with Achim Wendel (Placebo Effect)?They are sorely missed:(

not with Achim to the past times... You may know in some credits they had on their CD's about two guys, Aue and Frosch. Both I knew from that days, they had a cool mailorder service...

Highly overlooked/under rated groups include:

Controlled Bleeding
Hunting Lodge
Nocturnal Emissions
Dissecting Table
Section 25
Scar Tissue
MB-for sake of legend/obscurity and thick minimal analogue electro-cution
Snowy Red + the rest of the New Beaters
very early-Front Line Assembly
Eyeless in Gaza
Sex Gang Children
and I'll agree with Electro Freak, Tribantura + the rest of the early talla prods. are indespensible German Tech.
There's a shit ton more just can't claim them right now. Too much music history crap, don't even get my started on 60's Psyche or Jamaican Dub

Allied vision are highly overlooked.

Big shame as "MMBO" has some of the most brutal electro tracks ever like "Confession of dementia", "Transition" and "Back to Ashes". If everything was as brutal as those songs id be more into this music.

@Cyrax

Check out Anaeth "1" & Remyl "S/T"

E

I don't think we mentioned U-TEK. Awesome band! I have enjoyed them forever it seems! Never gets old!

Also Hula has a nice sound. Poison (Club Mix) one of my favorite tracks by them or anyone for that matter! Hula seemed to get raw deal while they were active and it wasn't till after their departure from the scene that they were truly appeciated by their label........

@Electrofreak

any URLs ?

Warrior

Agreed:)

@Cyrax

I haven't received my consultation fee yet! (j/k)

PS; both cd's are right up your alley and ....OOP:(

where can I get em from though ?

@Cyrax

Lemme check & get back to you:)

Ok, thankyou I appreciate that

Monaco X?

Yep Monaco X cd is pretty good.They vanished off the face of the earth:(

the weathermen.
we even have a new album out now...
it's here, on our website

What do people think the best labels still running are for old school ?

black rain put out some good stuff, so do infacted....

Electrofreak's label Deathkon Media ( we'll it isn't my label but the owner is a good friend of mine).I'vve many forthcoming old school releases up my sleeve.

I've*

@Cyrax

Check out Life Is Painful Records www.vivisektion.de

@Cyrax

Wumpshop have Anaeth "1"

Electrofreakage......
I managed to get a copy of Sigmund Und Sein Freund - Sacred 12" (Antler 064).
Thanks for the recommendation. It is definitely cool. Almost experimental at times. It has a nice dark vibe to it.

Electrofreakage huh?

Glad you like it. The 8 Sigmund vinyls on AS are awesome.

Any chance of those on CD? Perhaps an Electrofreak project?

I'm afraid not:( I'll reveal the upcoming releases on Deathkon Media in late April.

Cool...thanks! E...you are the man!!!!

Save your money Warrior:)

@warrior

Do you've In Sotto Voce "S/T" mcd & "Tracks"cd (Antler Subway)?

Yes Electrofreak......I have "Tracks"....Good stuff!

Boris Mikulik

Boris Mikulik & In Soto Voce are Poesie Noire side-projects

DATA-BANK-A
IN-D

Negapadres.3.3 (a;grumh side-project) is back!!!!

http://www.hermetique.net/negapadres.htm

&yes they're working on new A;grumh material!YAY

We sooooo need another A;grumh release...
Edito & Penser Et Agir...are KILLER !!!!

They get TONS of e-mails &letters from loyal fans urging ém to come back.Terrorbanana EBM is going down the tube:)

Yeah..it's a matter of time when all the classic electro's are back in ther recording studio !

well, a;Gruhm... yeah, I like their stuff - it's both, funny and old-school and the terrorbanana comparison hits the target on them...

@Marc

Hey buddy:)A;grumh are crazy & very funny but they've nuttin to do with Terrorbanana EBM/Endzeitmazolla/Hellraiserekto/Robohellektro.Check my interview with A;grumh at www.vendetta-music.com (click on interviews & scroll down).They poked fun at futurepoppers/hellektroers.

A Split Second (original lineup) are working on new material!

I would like to see twilight Ritual live sometime. Hmm. Maybe on this years BIM. Wishfull thinking...

Twilight Ritual.

ACB

TR second album (Genetic)is darn good. Are they working on new material?

Electroblue

Do you've Velodrome "Glassfabrik"12"(Animalized/SPV)?

@ electrofreak

don't have Velodrome..:-(
who & what do they sound like ?

Velodrome's sound is a mixture of minimal elektro & old school EBM. "Glassfabrik"12"(1989) is a MUST HAVE!

I have to hear a sample..then find it !!

I don't have Velodrome either, but I do like them a lot. Sound like Liasons Dangereuses.

Liasons Dangereuses is a masterpiece of the future !

@ Electrofreak

I don't know. A couple of years ago there was this more ambient sounding CD. they left electro. Well not quite as they became A Split Second.

I saw A Split Second live in the early 90's.Their show was captivating.

Electroblue

Do you like Malaria as well?

@electrofreak

Yes I like the Berlin new wave punk outfit Malaria !
I only have a CDS "Kaltes Klares Wasser"
I plan to get there compilation CD soon..

@Electroblue

Do you've Two of China "Los Ninos" 12" (Westside)?

& Central Unit "Computer Music" 12" (Westside)

The Malaria! compilation is a must have.

@ electrofreak
I LOVE the Two of China Remake of "Los Ninos"
this mix really kicks..Great Punchy Electro

@ ACB

Yes..I will have to order Malaria's comp sooner than later !

@Electroblue

Do you've Two of China "Tek Me"as well? I love Westside releases.

@electrofreak
This was there 1st of 2 releases..and I don't have it :-(
I'm sure it's a Talla masterpiece !
Westside is DA BOMB !!

@ electrofreak

Micro Chip League - CD/LP - Code Numbers !!!

MCL "Code Numbers" is a top notch album.

Matthias Schuster--"Atemlos"

It also features the In Namen Des Volkes 12" and "Ritual" 12". A musthave for anyone who likes that minimal NDW sound.

@ACB,Warrior & Electroblue

Do you remember the brazilian old school act Simbolo?

@ electrofreak
I remember there name but not the music...they were from Brazil ?

Yep they released 3 albums on Cri du Chat/Subtronic in the mid 90's.The first album is highly recommended!

@Electroblue

I just spinned Simbolo's amazing debut "Le Sacré du Printemps" (Cri du Chat/Subtronic,1992). it's long OOP but i'm sure it's still available (check GEMM).

I know them, but do not own anything by them. They are on a CCP or KD comp. I vaguely recall.

@ electrofreak

Is Simbolo "Le Scare du Printemps" a Stravinsky Electro Release ?

uh huh

Speaking of brazilian old school acts, do you've Morgue "The Mind Is A Labyrinth"(Subtronic,1994)?

I of course have that Morgue debut, which was a CD release of their great "Scatology" demo tape. Morgue played ONE gig in Germany, together on a small festival with my old band Evil Sermon in Bremen and the special guests Last Delay. I was one of the organizers, he-he. Gil of Morgue was a close friend of mine to that days and he visited me and my family in my area. So bad, that I missed his contact through the years.

About Simbolo: the most "must-have" is the re-release of their demo tape "Into The Danger Zone" on Cri Du Chat. I still have it here and it is much better than "Le Sacre...".
Has anybody heard the Brazilian classics Homicidal Feelings and Cybernetic Faces?

@Marc

You're right "In The Danger zone" is Simbolo's best release

Morgue Mechanism - The sweet apology of death off beat 97 from Sao Paulo, Brasil

AQ

Swet Apology is a sub-par album.Check out Morgue's debut "The Mind"

okay, what do you think about Lost Image - the concept of evil and Human Decay - morbid visions ?

lost image-The Concept of Evil" is technoish.Check out their awesome debut "Electrocution".Human Decay "Morbid Visions"is darn good.

@Marc

Do you've the two Glatze Des Willens (pre-Calva Y Nada) albums?

@ e.freak: i bought a bunch of albums on ebay, thought some of it woul dbe old school stuff, but most of it suxxx :(

But i also got the Lost Image and Human Decay, i´m wating for delivery still :((

What did you buy?

E-Freak: Hi Nader, I hope you are doing well. Sorry, no, I don't have that Glatze stuff. I wasn't too much into that Calva stuff, most Goth kiddies were and did storm the dancefloors - baah, I found the pieces quite annoying...
Nader, I am pretty much sure that Lost Image have also released a special X-mas MCD with only three tracks right after "Electrocution". i think it was quite meant as a joke release. Do you have this limited item?

A/Q: Joo Frank, lass mal hören, was Dich da überrollt hat...

Hi Marc,

Yep i've Lost Image "Madness" mcd:)

Even though they have been already mentioned a couple times I'd have to say DRP as well. Electro Brain 586 is great and the track "Enkephalin" is one of my all time favorite tracks. I guess this was the only CD they released. They had a track ("Warp") on a Kk records comp and was said to be from a forthcoming album. I guess this never came to light. I might also agree with 2nd Communication but they had a problem of making their songs a little too long, however "Le Fung (Bright Red Version)" will always hold a place in my heart.

Well it was a 9 CD package and i cannot *really* complain cause the endprice was quite cheap:

LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS - Biohazard (MCD, 1992)
(this one is the best of them all, without question )

NEW MIND - Zero to the Bone (Album, 1995)

IMAGE TRANSMISSION - HLC (Album, 1995)

INERTIA - Advanced Relevation (Album, 2002)

ACCESS DENIED - Bridges rmxd (Album, 2001)

CAT RAPES DOG - Superluminal (MCD, 1991)

HALOBLACK - Tension Filter (Album, 1994)

CULTIVATED BIMBO - Blasting in Progress (EP, 1992)

BEBORN BETON - Concrete Ground (Album, 1994)
(this one is also quite good, but not as good as the albums
before it and the 2 after it - i had this CD before some time
and sold it cause i got bored, but now i have it back + would
say it is still the 2nd best of the package )


I also bought in the 2nd hand shop:

OOMPH! - same
(a rerelease with 1 unreleased track as well 3 mixes from the best german sung songs - really recommended. I guess it is remastered also)

Portishead - Dummy
(TripHop,Dub....cool,cool )

Saafi Brothers - Mystical Cigarettes
(Ambient,Dub,Goa - nice relaxed instrumentals)

Celtic Frost - Parched...
(a comp of early songs/demos/unreleased from this cult metal band)

btw.: I´m looking for:

Ind. Totem - Aspects of..... / SETI
Absent Minded - everything
Serpents - everything
Abscess - the first album
Lassigue Bendthaus - almost everything
Paracont - first album
Lost Image - Electrocution
Splatter Sqall - The Spell
IC 434 - first

and much more.

okay, delete "Electrocution" i found the tape and it still plays. It isn´t that good, hope "The concept of evil" is better :)

I also found:

Page 12 - the violence of truth
Absent Minded - endless pain
Benestrophe - sensory deprivation
Implant - soft flesh,hard steel
Krupps - two
Contingence - dominion
Paracont - zoom
Prager Handgriff - maschinensturm
Sleepwalk - door to insomnia
Serpents - have fun
Will - world flesh stone
CAI 777 - ?
Clock DVA - burried dreams
Block 57 - ?
Numb - wasted sky
Christ Analogue - ?

AQ

Serpents "Terminal breath"; "Have Fun"mcd & "what's Fear"are awesome. Same goes for Paracont "Zoom" & SS "Spell".

@electrofreak

I found the full length CD of Simbolo - In the Danger Zone..in my collection !
I now need to find there first.......Stravinsky :-)

The first Simbolo album is HARSH!I LOVE IT

@electroblue

Do you've Deus Ex Machina "S/T"?

Deus Ex Machina from Athens Greece

@electroblue

I was referring to the mexican dark elektro act Deus ex Machina

@ electrofreak

duhhh.....I remember a CD called Videohiperstess sp ?
with a song called gender or generator something ?...it was good

Yeppers but S/T is MUCH better.

@Marc

Do you've Ogo "Retina Luminosa"? I wonder what happened to ém.

Deus ex Machina. There are at least three of them: Deus ex Machina, Deus ex Machina and Deus ex Machina. Does anyone know if there are any more of them?


Kind regards,

Sunshine

www.myspace.com/electroheadew

Apskat

Don't piss ELECTROHEAD off!

Neon was a great band, but which particular "Neon" are we discussing? :D

ACB

Did you get the Neon Judgement box-set?

@Marc

Do you've IC434 "the tapes"CDR?

@Electrofreak

It's still on the wish list as I've bought quite a lot of new Minimal releases this month. Don't miss out on Enfant04 ;-)

Don't piss ELECTROHEAD off!

I'll try my hardest to not do that ;)

@ electrofreak

I was jammin' to Inside Treatment - CD - Underneath my purple shades
the track "Klaustrophobia"..is fuckin' killer !!!

I love "Underneath My Purple Shades".Do you've their debut "Isolated Suburban Psychokillers" cd?

@ electrofreak

Regarding - Inside Treatment

I don't have there debut :-(
But I do have:
Various - CD - Technoclub Vol. 1 on New Zone...which has the killer track "Walk Alone" :-)

What songs from the debut would you recommend ?

@electroblue

My fav tracks on IT "Isolated Suburban" are: Experiment, Endless Shore & Walk Alone.

@ electrofreak

speaking of experiment

who sings this KILLER song with some lyrics with:

little dogs..little cats in the lab..experiments !!

electroblue

Check out Inside Treatment "Anaesthetic Age" 12" (Energy Rekords) as well!

@ electrofreak

I have that 12" somewhere.....
I think I found that in a dusty bin for 2.99 !

ACB & Electroblue

Do you remember the minimal elektro/EBM band Informatics? Check out the best of comp "In The Garden of Euterpe" (19 tracks)

http://www.indietective.de/produkt.html?code=43254&%2520Informatics%2520In%2520The%2520Garden%2520Of%2520Euterpe

@ Nader/E-Freak: I don't have IC434 CDR, I have both originally tapes, ha!
Unfortunatly I don't have that Ogo CD, shit. Have heard their angry stuff since a while back. They are heavily underrated and almost unknown (try and ask somebody else here about Mexican acts besides Hocico, Amduscia, Artefakto or Deus Ex Machina...).

About Inside Treatment: Their debut "Isolated..." is their best one. My favs are "Black Expression", "Pandaimonium" and "Walk Alone"

@ electroblue: try also to get "Trans-Europa" CD compilation, released 1989 in collaboration between the New Life magazine and Front Music Production. The CD version of this comp holds Inside Treatment's "Reinforcement FX", a track out of their demo tape phase... By the way: "Klaustrophobia" from their second album "Underneath..." is also from their demo tape phase...

electroblue

"Trans Europa 1" cd (1989) is an awesome comp.

Marc

What happened to Genital ATech?I still listen to "Harcore User"every once in a while.

GA-T, later on, right? Silence all around, haven't heard from them since the past Off Beat days...

GA-T ep is very technoish:( I dig their debut "hardcore user" .

@ electrofreak

I ofcourse love the Comp "Trans Europa" A swiss-swedish techno compilation :-)

my favs are:
Seance - Pillion
Scapa Flow - Servant
Tolchock 14 - The Black Plague
Sepulchre Inc. - Celebration...!

good old days:)

@ Electrofreak

When you start reminiscing all of the time, you are really getting old! ;D

I 2nd veldrome -their 12" is a must have!! Also check out the band "Metro Pakt"
that pre-dates Velodrome. Minimal gold!

@ ACB: It's the same singer on Veldrome as Liaisons Dangereuses.

Yes, I know TPM. And it is impossible to find around here. :-(

ACB

I'll turn 37 in May.Hey don't tell anyone:)

Your secret is save with me ;-)

Is CC Catch giving you a private performance as a birthdaypresent? Oops. I should have kept that a secret.

ACB

I'm not at liberty to divulge confidential information:)

welcome in the club of the pre-30ies, I'm 34, but don't tell anyone else...

Marc

We're young at heart!

@Marc

Are you in touch with the keyboarder of Abcess?He was working on a solo project.

hey electrofreak, I looked on the wumpscut site but couldnt find Anaeth on it. is there anywhere else ? I found some samples of Remyl though and they sound promising. I'll keep looking for samples and CD's though, im desperate for AVish stuff!

Both cd's are awesome.Keep checking gemm &musicstack:)

@cyrax

http://www.musicstack.com/item/192805663/anaesth/anaesth+1

@ CYRAX

You may start to hate me as I own an original REMYL metalbox. ;-)

Yeah the famous metal box:)

So, guys what do you think about Individual Totem - Aspects Of Theory And Reality ??

I LOVE "Aspects of Theories & Realities"!

@Marc & Electroblue

Do you've V/A "Blood & Computer 1 &2"? The 2 cd's feature exclusive JEWELS (Brain leisure,Institute For The Criminally Insane, Sleepwalk,PP? Absent Minded, Lescure 13,Aiboforcen etc)

E....................

Found a copy of Inside Treatment "Underneath My Purple Shades" CD

Wow, way better than "Estate Of Insanity" CD

Thanks again for the RECO!!!!!!!

by the way, just got Ionic Vision "Actual" CD finally...what a great disc!!!! like all their stuff, no surprise.

@warrior

Keep looking for IT "Isolated suburban psychokillers"cd

I shall my good man!

@ electrofreak

I have not 1 compilation of the series "Blood & Computer"

Are these great old-school EBM comps..?.Do I need these is my collection ?
p.s Where can I get these releases ?

@ Warrior

Track 4. - Klaustrophobia (4:22) on Underneath My Purple Shades is Killer !
:-)

@ Warrior

Oh, on "Isolated Suburban Psychokillers In Coma"...when you find this....

I like: "Walk Alone" great track :-)

E-Blue
Agreed..........
"Born To Lose" is great too. I really like the whole disc. Eventually I will find "Psychokillers.."

V/A "Blood & Computers 1" (Paradise Movement, 1993) is a MUST HAVE!Brain Leisure,Institute for the Criminally Insane,Zero Defect,Absent Minded,Tilt,PP?,Lescure 13,Sabotage QCQC,Fuze Box Machine etc (20 tracks in total)

@ Warrior

do find it :-)

@ electrofreak

Ok..now I need to find the comp....."Blood & Computers"..only vol. 1 ?
I see killer names in vol. 1 :-)))

ClickClick.

NP the "Wet skin & curious eye" album. It's a shame that that famous Sheffield sound has disappeared.

@ ACB

Click Click's "Wet Skin" album is the shit !!!
I love "Sweet Stuff" :-))

Love the Sheffield sound !!!!

Cab.V,H.League,B.E.F. & Chakk :-)

@ Electroblue

And: Hula, Workforce, The Box, Vice Versa, Clock DVA,m The Naughtiest Girl Was A Monitor, They Might be Russians, Peter Hope...

what's about Scapa Flow? are they mentioned in this thread before? i love their "heads off to freedom" cd! "seasick", "leo" and "´let the sleaping mummies lie" are awesome trax!

@ ACB

I LOVE Click Click CD Wet Skin and Curious Eye !!

Fav track: Sweet Stuff :-)

p.s. Hula is Great too !

and cannot forget Adi & Clock DVA !!

"The Sack (remix)" & "Rotor Babe" are killer. I love the entire "Wet Skin..."CD
I love the sound. You just don't hear that anymore. I could listen to Click Click and Hula all day long
Hula "Poison" is one of my favorite tracks.

Demog: Hi Andy, neee - hatten wir noch nicht.

Scapa Flow indeed released before much better (+ and very old-school influenced...) stuff, especially with their first "The Guide" (FMP/Parade Amoureuse) and also the second one "Chased By Sunset" (Energy Rec.)
I saw them live together with Pouppee Fabrikk in a small town named Nordenham (yes, Tyske Ludder are hailing from there too...) back in 1991. I'll never forget this great gig, especially when screaming "Joooiiinnn Thhheeee Liiinnneee!!!!" in the micro.....

@Marc: my fave from Scapa Flow is"heads off to freedom". the reason is simple: i'm not too much into minimalistic sounds and arrangements...but that's just a matter of taste.

hab auch grad entdeckt das Scapa Flow im ersten beitrag dieses threads auftauchen...:-)

@Marc

"The Guide"mcd is my fav SF release.

Marc

I haven't gotten the CDR's yet:(

Marc & ACB

Do you remember Suiciety "Century of Brutality" (Hard Records,1994)?What happened to ém?

Yeah, I remember them, great stuff. So shitty that this act never came up with a second release...

@ Electrofreak

Check out the rerelease of: Ich Bin--"Obéis!"

Awesome Minimal with EBM touches.

ACB

Will do:)

@ Electrofreak

A better description would be: Kraftwerk and Suicide meet and make out in North Poland. They came from Corsica of all places.
You've got mail.

@Marc

Are you in touch with the former CCP band Pro Patria?

electrofreak:

Good evening, Nader.
Oh man, you drop some salt on my open wounds here.
Pro Patria was the third band intended to be out under my CCP side-label Crippled Abortion (first was Last Delay MCD "Jail", second intended was System Der Dinge with CD and MCD - CD got later released through Tommy/DSBP, some "Mindfire" remix works can be found on some comps to that time...).
The Pro Patria CD was ready done, also the planned MCD (including "Hard Times"), but it all never came out, and I am sure it never got pressed. Unfortunatly Alfred stopped with CCP all activities - he should still hold in his hands a ready mastered CDR of their amazing EBM stuff. We three guys of the to that time still active Vertigo also received one copy - but I never had it in my hands, although I asked to get the stuff immediatly.

Peter Vercauteren (also the vocalist of Pro Patria...) heard about the stop of CCP and contacted me a few times on the phone and he also asked how to continue. I've told him that I would try my very best to find another interested label - but this failed, because I never get their stuff. Then this all turned into silence and I have unfortunatly never heard of Peter again. It's a very sad story also for me personally and Pro Patria can be seen as a real victim of that CCP crash.

As I said - I heard their complete CD only two times - but you better forget all of their very good done comp appearances. This debut had the ability to kick all out of the field, it was so pretty well produced and worked out. Much more complexity you might have expected from this act, but still with the kind of the old-school sound. I'm very sure - when it got released normally to that time, that this debut was able to grow to one of the best CCP releases ever...

Alfred has mentioned with his 2nd try that he wanted to release a "Belgium Box Set" featuring both acts Ionic Vision and Pro Patria...

Anyhow I hope that Peter reads this. Maybe somebody here at this forum is able to help and to make a contact to Peter again. I don't know if he's is still around or if he ever has done music again. Mostly he also was very busy at his job, because he was a pilot for the Belgium air force. And as you surely know, Nader:

"Only pilots can change the world"

All the best

Marc

@Marc

Yeah, good band. In the end they self-released the CD and MCD (both as CDRs with self made sleeves) to a few friends and fans. I haven't listened to them in a while, but you're right - I think they were a good progression from their tapes.
I was sure I heard that the album did actually make it to the pressing plant, and that those CDs are still lying around in boxes somewhere in a lawyers office or something....who knows...

@Marc

I hope they'll get their act together &work on new material.The CDR's are amazingly good.

srac, Nader: Where the fuck did you guys get those stuff?

A new name to get this avalanche rolling again:

Fight 'n' Unity

(I hope we hadn't them here before?)

Does anybody know next to their 4-track MCD their demo tape "Anoxia"?

@Marc

Never heard of 'em!Where are they from?

Oh i'll ask the frenchies:)

What ever happened to A Thousand Societies?

@ACB

They vanished off the face of the earth:( "Défigurant les figurants" is an amazing tape.

agreed on ATS, Nader. Yes, ask the Frenschies, so you don't have the "Technical Mind" 4-track MCD of Fight 'n' Unity? Check also back for a reference the "French-Belgium Industries" CD comp out on Machinery (compiled by SL)...

I've "French-Belgium" comp & i'm looking for "Technical mind"mcd:)

@Marc

WOW "Technical Mind" ROCKS! Thanks for the tip buddy:)

I was just listening to "Daedalus Part VI and realised I almost forgot about:

The Grief

The Grief were awesome.Did you get the best of DCD?

I was about to order it. I read about it last week. I have the video of Daedalus Part VI on DVD! Very claustrofobic.

ACB

The DCD features 12 exclusive tracks:)

Taking the thread way back sorry. New Beat now that's old skool. Still at least I know those artists, may have to try and hear some of the newer stuff listed here. A Split Second re-released a more up-to-date mix of Flesh and I reckon it was a job well done too the acid sequencers were spot on.

woodzee

Check out the NEW BEAT thread

http://www.side-line.com/forum/threads.php?id=P12706_0_20_0_C

& yes a Split Second are darn good (i prefer the 1991 remix of Flesh though)

ACB

Check out The Grief "Nonobastant Le Cagoulisme" Ltd cd (2005).

Trial are on the verge of staging a comeback. Their upcoming album "No Fate" is a true dark elektro masterpiece!

@ Electrofreak

Thanks for the suggestion!

ACB

yvw:)

It's confirmed: Lescure 13 "Best of" cd will be released next spring YAY!

Armageddon Dildos have decided to go back to the roots! Expect a hard as nails old school EBM album next spring.

I creamed my pants reading that good news. No more. It's getting to much for me. :-)

You're bad:)

Forgive me :-)

I'll think about it:)

TWO classic Zoth Ommog acts are on the verge of staging a sensational comeback &one of ém will be featured on the upcoming EAR comp!More details will follow shortly.

A belgian promoter told me that Signal Aout 42 are contemplating a comeback!I hope they follow through...

Is Zero Defects one of the two classic Zoth Ommog acts staging a sensational comeback?

Denaes

I'm not at liberty to divulge that "classified information":)

Tyske Ludder box-set (the backcatalogue remastered +bonus tracks) is coming out in early November!

It's official now: the new SA42 album entitled "Langemark" is coming out in early 07!

Correction: the forthcoming SA42 "Langemark"is a 3-track mcd (2 remixes of the title track & Religion).They're working hard on the new album.

SA42 have a signed a contract with a European label.Is it Alfa Matrix?

have signed* a contract

& Vomito Negro are working on new material!

bump

Fuck off mofo.

What are ya complaining about?

I'm just helping you bump up your threads.

You should be happy, not cursing at me.

Some people....

yeah whatever...

Warrior

Preso Fervant is working on new material!Electric Tremor re-released the first EP.

@Warrior

Check Electric Tremor's website www.electric-tremor.de

Old school is alive & kicking in Germany!

I have seen the site before. not much in English unfortunately.

Warrior

Check out the links page.VERY interesting:)

& the charts! OLD SCHOOL is definitely regaining ground.

Electric Tremor..is an Awesome site !
the only site & groups that keep EBM/Electro alive !!

E-freak..love the Singles & Album Charts....that's the SHIT !!!..right :-)

Right on Tony!

Its cool to see the bands they promote. The only problem for me I can't figure out how to order the Pinsel liest EP:)

Warrior

Just e-mail ém:)

i will try to find the e mail.

Warrior

I'll ask Ionic Vision if they've a few copies left.

PS; Tyske Ludder box-set is coming out in late December.

Electrofreak's interview with SA42 will be online www.vendetta-music.com/interviews.php b4 x-mas (i still have to translate it).

E ......... I emailed the site. No response. Its been 2 or 3 weeks. I think the site mentioned only 100 copies were made of the Pinsel CD...?

Yeppers i'll ask Sven if has a few copies left.

most kind of you sir! Thanks!

Yeah I need Pinsel CD too.
I may contact Reinhard (T.A.N.K) to get me that one :-)

E-blue

I'll see what i can do:)

Pretty much everything from the New Zone label.

The upcoming old skool comp on EAR/Vendetta Music (cd1:old school EBM & cd2:authentic dark elektro ALL EXCLUSIVE TRACKS!) features classic electro acts &promising neo-old school bands.

Tony & Luke

Pinsel EP is sold out sorry about that:(

@ efreak

no worries...there's still one extra copy in someones home :-))

I will find it. Thanks for checking E.

Ptôse

Legendary French Minimal Wave Residents influenced band. Brilliant lyrics and music.

Not sure if this has been mentioned before and I'm too lazy to read all the posts, but Back Rain is re-issuing Tyske Ludder - Bombt Die Mörder? ( + Bonus ), Tyske Ludder - Creutzfeld EP ( + Bonus ) and Tyske Ludder - Dalmarnock ( + Bonus ). Tyske Ludder is one of my all-time favorites. Maybe this is old news to you guys...

darkmeat

Yeppers Tyske Ludder did an amazing remix for Brain Leisure "Defect" (featured on the long-awaited "Methods To Madness" ltd DCD).

@ E-Freak - I'm wondering now who in the states might be selling the Black Rain - Tyske Ludder reissues?

Vendetta Music & Metro.

Thanks ... Vendetta Music it is and closer to home. I rarely use Metro these days.

I did not see the Black Rain - Tyske Ludder reissues listed at Vendetta Music, so I ordered through 'Cop International' instead.

darkmeat

The Tyske Ludder box-set is gone but the 3 cd's are available separately.

E- Freak - Yeah, I actually wanted the box set. Guess I wasn't on top of the situation.

This is kind of embarrassing, but I never knew until yesterday Henrik Nordvargr Björkk (MZ412) was a member of Pouppee Fabrikk. Also ex-Maschinenzimmer 412 member Jouni Ollila...
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Poupp%C3%A9e+Fabrikk

@darkmeat,

Hang your head in shame...